Question 12

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I'm not gonna comment on his powerset--that's more Edgedancer's modus operandi--but a callous Epic who sets himself up as a hero even while being a total slontze?

 

Do we finally have Epic!Captain Hammer?

 

Please tell me he sings please tell me he sings please tell me he sings please tell me he sings….

[Edgedancer he/him]

If he's done awful things like that in the name of heroism, I say just embrace that aspect of his character. He's not a gifter, correct? So he wouldn't have Prof's excuse for staving off the corruption. A character who fancies himself a hero, yet has no qualms against destroying an entire town in his rage, could be extremely chilling. 

Oh I fully support the concept, I just find it slightly eyebrow raising to encompas mass murder for the sake of his ego in a description started with "mostly minor" that's pretty much the point where one s an irredimable monster.

 

I'm not gonna comment on his powerset--that's more Edgedancer's modus operandi--but a callous Epic who sets himself up as a hero even while being a total slontze?

 

Do we finally have Epic!Captain Hammer?

He needs a duel with Deathwish to clear who is the true Epic!Hammer.

 

Oh, by the way Bridge Boy, there's still the matter of sending the weakness to the Gms in question, which if he goes to Astoria would be me and Twi,

[Elithanathile he/him]

Yeah, I just finished reading the Astoria thread, and was just about to send the PM's when I saw this.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Oh I fully support the concept, I just find it slightly eyebrow raising to encompas mass murder for the sake of his ego in a description started with "mostly minor" that's pretty much the point where one s an irredimable monster.

 

He needs a duel with Deathwish to clear who is the true Epic!Hammer.

 

Oh, by the way Bridge Boy, there's still the matter of sending the weakness to the Gms in question, which if he goes to Astoria would be me and Twi,

 

If that were his Rending, I think you'd be justified in giving him a bit of leeway, since we know Epics aren't really in control when they Rend. But I'm with Edge on this one—destroying a city or even a small town because the Reckoners went after him (thus showing him they didn't consider him a hero, making it an ego issue) would take a lot of explaining to keep him from descending into Complete Monster territory. And even then, I think he'd still be a Complete Monster, so I say just go with it. You can still play up his angst over his anger issues, but with something like that in his past, it will definitely show that he's more monster than hero. 

 

A sleazeball versus this guy? Yikes. Just be glad your Epic isn't female, Bridge Boy.  

Edited June 10, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles

[Elithanathile he/him]

That's why he left Illinois, he was trying to get as far away from that as he can, avoiding his past, and trying to make sure that nobody else connects him to that event.

[Fatebreaker he/him]

1)I can change the course of the intorigation a bit if that makes you feel better but I dosen't really change much, for the simple reason that Lucentia doesn't trust C4. she's going to be expecting more attacks one way or another. At most she might change her method to concentrate a bit more on blocking the entries to the museum, which wouldn't help the Ballooners attack but would make it pretty much impossible for Airplane to just drop in and grab Mommy, so if anything that change would be for the worse.

2)Of course they are going to watch the sky. They are in a flying museum, the sky is litrally the only thing they can watch.

3)High alert flying dinosaur patrol, they might not be able to harm the zepplin but they are going to spot it and alarm everyone in the museum that needs alarming early enough.

4)If not standing on guard the minimum would be to keep most everyone from entering/exiting the museum by giving it a (living) diamond armor.

 

Not quite, the name does take it's root in the latin word lucent for shining/transulent but the -ia ending is simply there to imply it to be a female name. Then the name inspiration also did kind of come from the fourth essence.

(and while we are discussing latin, as far as I know, it's lighting not lightning. )

 

1)True, but the idea is that he would have made it to the landing or perhaps a large window while she was still under the museum, sending Schultz on ahead in the Zeppelin to prepare for a bombing run.

2) Derp. you got me 

3) Who would be addressing the zeppelin though? The zeppelin would have made it to the museum during the fighting, not after, so most of the characters wee already engaged in some sort of fight. And Schultz is a good enough shot to take out a number of pterodactyls from a distance. They might raise an alarm, but it would probably take a second to register for all of the characters engaged in combat, which is all the Ballooner needs

4) as I said earlier he could go through a window.

[18th Shard he/him]

I think you can post now, if you want.  It seemed like Phoenix's viewpoint happened relatively soon.  Unless you were intending for the Queens to be gone, in which case maybe we can try to finish things up quickly.  

It does happen soon, but I want the queens gone. Rainamker, Blossom, and Cornucopia could all probably kill him on their own, and together its just overkill.

 

Welcome, Bridge Boy! Does Thoron truly (and delusionally) believe he is a hero, or is he hiding his self-loathing from himself?

[Elithanathile he/him]

He truly does believe himself to be a hero. In fact, that's his motivation for doing just about anything, it to prove that he is a hero, and for the world to believe he is one.

[Blackhoof]

Very interesting character you have there, Bridge Boy. Sounds quite scary in his "heroism".

[mail-mi he/him]

this time brandishing an old RPG back from the United States days.

 

Is it bad that the way I'm imagining this scene is Larry pulling out a Dungeons and Dragons handbook and whacking Scott on the head with it?   

[Redbird he/him]

The way Thoron thinks is definitely scarier than an epic who knows he is a monster. That and he seems like he would be rather hard to kill.

[Shattered he/him]

So, I'm going to pitch this idea for the basis of an Epic, and you guys can tell be whether it's completely unfeasible or only sort of unfeasible. I've been thinking about a guy that has dissociative identity disorder. The thing is, each of the personalities only has access to one of his powers. I haven't done too much planning yet, but maybe one of them has a PI power.

 

I'm not sure if this is a good idea, and I really haven't gone too in-depth with it yet, so if it sounds impossible, then that's fine.

[Blackhoof]

Hmmm.... Sounds interesting. However, i think it would only potentially work that way for non-passive powers. So Steelheart, for instance, might placebo himself into thinking that flight is his only power, and never use energy blasts. But he couldnt mentally shut off his invulnerability like that. He doesn't choose to be invulnerable or not like he chooses to shoot energy blasts, he simply is. So to be feasible, at the least all the personalities would have to have the same passive powers (if any at all), because you cannot choose whether or not to use a passive power by definition.

[Edgedancer he/him]

1)True, but the idea is that he would have made it to the landing or perhaps a large window while she was still under the museum, sending Schultz on ahead in the Zeppelin to prepare for a bombing run.

2) Derp. you got me 

3) Who would be addressing the zeppelin though? The zeppelin would have made it to the museum during the fighting, not after, so most of the characters wee already engaged in some sort of fight. And Schultz is a good enough shot to take out a number of pterodactyls from a distance. They might raise an alarm, but it would probably take a second to register for all of the characters engaged in combat, which is all the Ballooner needs

4) as I said earlier he could go through a window.

There isn't really enough time for the Ballooner to have made his way into the museum during/before the attack though. Those "fights" maybe took a minute tops, meaning both the MEE members and Lucentia and co when walking down the stairs to under the museum would already have seen the zepplin and again whether it be by dinosaurs or by gunshoots something would have given away their position long before a few seconds are enough to enter the museum making it impossible for him to reach the museum completely unnoticed. 

It could work with a more subtil approach but a zeppllin or something like that is to large for everyone to just overlook.

[Silverblade5 he/him]

So...I've be thinking about joining up recently, but I suck at writing, so I was thinking of creating a character who mostly served under another Epic. Will post a bio tomorrow. LMK if anyone is interested with this, because this is a detail I need for the bio.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Hmmm.... Sounds interesting. However, i think it would only potentially work that way for non-passive powers. So Steelheart, for instance, might placebo himself into thinking that flight is his only power, and never use energy blasts. But he couldnt mentally shut off his invulnerability like that. He doesn't choose to be invulnerable or not like he chooses to shoot energy blasts, he simply is. So to be feasible, at the least all the personalities would have to have the same passive powers (if any at all), because you cannot choose whether or not to use a passive power by definition.

I pretty much agree with this assessment and only would add that we have seen Prof at the very least supress his healing factor, meaning it could be possible that a passive ability might only work (or work properly) for one subpart of the personality, depending on the specifics.

What I'd be more careful about that the personalities can't be too different, because they all have to include the trauma.

 

So...I've be thinking about joining up recently, but I suck at writing, so I was thinking of creating a character who mostly served under another Epic. Will post a bio tomorrow. LMK if anyone is interested with this, because this is a detail I need for the bio.

Well, it depends on how important a henchman you want to make him, almost nameless goon number 7 can always be integrated but most important positions in Astoria and Corvallis should already be taken up.

 

I also noticed another problematic thing about The Mad Ballooner already being in the musum, while the attacks takes place, namely that the explosion would have needed to happen long before Airplane could realistically arrive at the museum, and given that any explosion that could actually damage the museum would also shake it (although the damage would still be inconsequential in the long run given that repairing it would be a matter of hours at most) that would mean Mommy would have fallen from her little ledge, which would be pretty much fatal.

[Blackhoof]

I pretty much agree with this assessment and only would add that we have seen Prof at the very least supress his healing factor, meaning it could be possible that a passive ability might only work (or work properly) for one subpart of the personality, depending on the specifics.

What I'd be more careful about that the personalities can't be too different, because they all have to include the trauma.

 

I think he only did that by gifting, though, and by not being injured in the first place. I could easily be wrong, but I don't recall him ever apparently purposefully not healing from any injury. The only thing that could be similar is when he was head-crushed by Steelheart in the final battle, but I always figured that there was a delay because his healing took some time to heal the catastrophic damage he had received and resurrect him.

 

 

Well, it depends on how important a henchman you want to make him, almost nameless goon number 7 can always be integrated but most important positions in Astoria and Corvallis should already be taken up.

 

well I obviously cannot speak for Comatose, but Corvallis at least seems to have lots of empty spaces for vanillas to slot in- sure the Queens are the heads of their respective departments, but each one would have a number of Epics and vanillas beneath them for administrative purposes and such. Most of them are completely unnamed. I think Winter named a vanilla guard or guard captain in Chases intro post, but other than that, not much.

[Edgedancer he/him]

 

I think he only did that by gifting, though, and by not being injured in the first place. I could easily be wrong, but I don't recall him ever apparently purposefully not healing from any injury. The only thing that could be similar is when he was head-crushed by Steelheart in the final battle, but I always figured that there was a delay because his healing took some time to heal the catastrophic damage he had received and resurrect him.

 

 

well I obviously cannot speak for Comatose, but Corvallis at least seems to have lots of empty spaces for vanillas to slot in- sure the Queens are the heads of their respective departments, but each one would have a number of Epics and vanillas beneath them for administrative purposes and such. Most of them are completely unnamed. I think Winter named a vanilla guard or guard captain in Chases intro post, but other than that, not much.

 

The amount of healing Prof gifted David healed him much faster when Obliteration injured him much more than it did Prof, when Steelheart crushed his head, so he was clearly holding back here, also in Firefight he

tricks Obliteration to get his glasses

by holding back his healing.

 

Exactly as I said, lesser posts certainly but not really anything important. e also sounded like he wanted to play an Epic, given his use of the word another.

[Blackhoof]

The amount of healing Prof gifted David healed him much faster when Obliteration injured him much more than it did Prof, when Steelheart crushed his head, so he was clearly holding back here, also in Firefight he

tricks Obliteration to get his glasses

by holding back his healing.

 

hmmm, that is certainly true. Although in regards to your spoiler tag:

A delay before he heals from death seems normal. So Obliteration blasted him, assumed he was dead, and gloated for a bit before Prof healed and came back to life, just like he healed after a delay when he was smacked by Steelheart in Soldier Field.

 

I think death might be a factor in the speed of the healing- David healed very quickly from having half his body incinerated, but Prof took some time (although we don't know for how long he had healed and was playing dead) to come back from a simple crushed skull. The one difference seems to be death in one case and living in the other, not to mention the differences that gifting might bring.

 

It just seems strange to think that Prof could consciously hold back his healing when dead- how does he think?

[Edgedancer he/him]

hmmm, that is certainly true. Although in regards to your spoiler tag:

A delay before he heals from death seems normal. So Obliteration blasted him, assumed he was dead, and gloated for a bit before Prof healed and came back to life, just like he healed after a delay when he was smacked by Steelheart in Soldier Field.

 

I think death might be a factor in the speed of the healing- David healed very quickly from having half his body incinerated, but Prof took some time (although we don't know for how long he had healed and was playing dead) to come back from a simple crushed skull. The one difference seems to be death in one case and living in the other, not to mention the differences that gifting might bring.

 

It just seems strange to think that Prof could consciously hold back his healing when dead- how does he think?

What Obliteration did to David should have been absolutely leathal, to quote David

 

For a moment, I was not.

There is absolutely no reason any of the injuries Prof has sustained in story should have slowed him down for even a second unless he held back his power.

David also refers to Prof

 

using only a smidge of power to heal from wounds, accelerating the process but not bringing him too much darkness.

sounds like having control over his powers to me.

[Blackhoof]

What Obliteration did to David should have been absolutely leathal, to quote David

There is absolutely no reason any of the injuries Prof has sustained in story should have slowed him down for even a second unless he held back his power.

David also refers to Prof

sounds like having control over his powers to me.

 

fair enough, that quote basically confirms it. Prof can control the rate at which he heals. But still, I think that if he somehow forgot that he could heal, he would still heal, unless he was actively constraining it, which would imply he knows about the power at least subconsciously.

[Mckeedee123 he/him]

There isn't really enough time for the Ballooner to have made his way into the museum during/before the attack though. Those "fights" maybe took a minute tops, meaning both the MEE members and Lucentia and co when walking down the stairs to under the museum would already have seen the zepplin and again whether it be by dinosaurs or by gunshoots something would have given away their position long before a few seconds are enough to enter the museum making it impossible for him to reach the museum completely unnoticed. 

It could work with a more subtil approach but a zeppllin or something like that is to large for everyone to just overlook.

 

What if it's a sky-blue balloon?

 

Camouflage. 

[Curious Anamaximder he/him]

What if it's a sky-blue balloon?

 

Camouflage. 

They actually do that

[Edgedancer he/him]

What if it's a sky-blue balloon?

Camouflage.

Then there would still be the big tapegondola and more importantly the glow from the gravitron they placed on it for better flight.

[Paranoid King he/him]

If this is the place to make a civilian character, then here is mine:

Name: Rick Daveson
Age: 35
Hair: brown
Height: 5'8
Eyes: green
Backstory: Grew up in a moderately wealthy family, was well educated and joined the secret service for 10-12 years before retiring to become a computer specialist. He lived a happy life for a few years. And then Calamity struck.
A minor epic named Blastwave destroyed his home and family. His thoughts turned from programming to revenge, but lacking the skills to directly fight epics, he instead covertly discovers their weakness, then breaks into epic homes, hacks into their computers, and posts the weakness and name of the epic on random sites.
Strengths: Subterfuge, anything computer-related, and research.
Weaknesses: hand to hand combat, laser weapons, evil kittens, too many meatballs in the spaghetti, football, clowns, vampires, batman, and monkeys. He is allergic to blueberries (loud sneezing that will give him away.)

Currently resides in Astoria

Feel free to give feedback and suggestions. I'm open to improvement!