Cumulus she/her Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Has the shard Rayse holds ever been confirmed? The concensus seems to be Odium is hatred, but he is described as the most dangerous of the 16. Hatred is not the most dangerous "intent" for lack of a better word a shard. Emphasis on dangerous, chaos is terrifing and so is the reaction it gains. I think the importance and over explanation of Dalinar's obsession with order also lends to the idea that chaos is a good choice. Also chaos could explain his power to splinter other shards, if colliding with him sends the opposing intent into a choatic state thus splintering it.?????? Random thought as I was trying to sleep...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Odium literally means intense hatred for something. It's not a fancy name. It's actually an English noun. Edit: He is probably more dangerous than even Ruin because, even though Ruin also wants us all to die, his intent restricts his methodology somewhat since he can't exactly create without help. Odium can do anything as long as it is out of hatred. Plus Ruin doesn't have the splintering trick or he would've done it by now. And Ati is one of the nice ones. Edited April 19, 2015 by natc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Joe in the Bush Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Odium is the Shard of Rayse. And actually, Odium is a terrifying concept. All of the shards are molded by their intent, eventually becoming the intent itself. Ati was a Kind and generous man, but turned into a force of pure entropy. But where most of the shards are limited by their intent, Odium isn't. Endowment has to give away power. She doesn't have much choice in the matter. she just gives away power, there's not much variation of what she can do. Preservation has to keep things stable, Ruin has to destroy, Honour has to protect and Serve, Cultivation has to help things grow. But Odium is Vague. All he has to do is Hate, and within that hate, he can do any of the above. He can give away power, he can preserve or destroy, he can protect, cultivate, neglect or corrupt as he see's fit. There's really very little limits on his power, whereas something like chaos would be forced to be insane, randomly changing everything. A shard of chaos wouldn't have a planet, it would have a random amount of materials and lack of materials. Honestly not that scary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumulus she/her Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I knew odium meant hate(forgot). I never thought about using hatred of things to manipulate them directly, I simply took is as being hateful I guess. Thank you for the clarification, that is a great explination! Also very frightening (hating that something is therefore it is not). I love that for some reason... edit: I think chaos would do more than make things or people insane. Chaos is in the simplest form is a lack of proper order. If for instance Chaos decided to change the way stormlight was contained in gems surgebinders would know longer how to "ingest" it and fabirals would not work. They of course could eventually solve the problem but for a while it would be, well... chaotic. Edited April 19, 2015 by SouthernStorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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