Lashing Shardplate?

[DanTheSeamonster he/him]

I have a theory. I'm not sure if there is a WoB that renders said theory inert, but I figured what the hedge, it wouldn't hurt to get the opinions of the mortals. 

 

What if you could lash Shardplate? First of all, would it even work? I don't believe there would be a reason why it wouldn't, unless the Shardplate's magical properties somehow make it were Stormlight can't be used against them. 

 

But think about it, You could lash a Shardbearer to the ground, tripping him up. You could lash him to a wall, so that he becomes immobile and can not fight you anymore. You could Lash him to the roof, and presto same as Lashing him to a wall, with the added bonus of him becoming confused as hedge. 

 

I realize these are already things you that we know one can accomplish with Stormligh, but as far as we know they have not been attempted against a Shardbearer. Additionally, there are two other uses I can think of for Lashing a Shardbearer. You could Lash him into another enemy, this would push the Shardbearer off balance, and could seriously injure or kill the other enemy if they are not also wearing Plate. The other option I could think of is Lashing Shardplate off of its bearer. Maybe not all the pieces at once, but if you focused all of your concentration onto one piece of Plate, such as the breastplate, then possibly it would succeed. The bearer would be fighting, impervious to injury and then all of the sudden his chest and stomach are exposed for a killing blow. 

 

I don't know. Someone with more Rosharan knowledge (sadly I don't get nearly enough of it here in Camorr) should tell me if this is possible or not. Also, if you do think it will work, can you think of any other uses for this technique? 

[A Joe in the Bush]

Szeth says in Way of kings that Shardplate interferes with Lashings, and Brandon has said that the more investiture an item has, the harder it is to affect. That's why you can't push on the metals in someone's stomach for instance. I'll try to find quotes for this.

 

But yeah, Shardplates hould be immune to lashings.

 

EDIT: Link

 

 

ZENITH

Szeth mentions that Lashings don't work with shardplate (on?). Is there any way to get around this (As in, lashing with shardplate on, or lashing people with shardplate on), and, if so, does it have anything to do with the Knights Radiant and/or their ideals?

BRANDON SANDERSON

This has to do with the nature of the magics in the cosmere. They interfere with one another. Something that contains a lot of power--we call it investiture--resists the efforts of magic to influence it. A strong spirit can interfere as well.

Edited April 3, 2015 by The Only Joe

[kaellok he/him]

Minor quibbling point to what The Only Joe said; Lashing wouldn't be impossible, just really really difficult.  There's a WoB I'm too lazy to find that talks about affecting Shardblades, and Brandon says that a Duralumin-infused push would definitely affect a Blade. 

 

Then again, Lashings may not have the ability to have a super-infused push to them, so it may still be impossible. 

 

Using Surgebindings against Radiants is really not the purpose of them, too.  So it doesn't surprise me that it's really difficult for them to attack/kill each other, even though they're great at killing massively powerful beasts/monsters/supernatural baddies.  All of your ideas would still work against the types of enemies that we may expect them to face in a Desolation.  I'm personally waiting to see a chasmfiend-type voidbeast to be lashed to the moon until it breaks orbit.

 

Edit: Also, how good was Lies of Locke Lamora, right?!  Book 2 was solid, but not special.  Then Republic of Thieves.  Man.  Can't wait for the next one.  Scott Lynch is as gifted a storyteller as Sanderson, just not as prolific.

Edited April 3, 2015 by kaellok

[A Joe in the Bush]

Edit: Also, how good was Lies of Locke Lamora, right?!  Book 2 was solid, but not special.  Then Republic of Thieves.  Man.  Can't wait for the next one.  Scott Lynch is as gifted a storyteller as Sanderson, just not as prolific.

Oh hey! I didn't even notice your name was a reference to that. That was a wonderful series. The first one was the best.

[natc]

I thought it was the gemstones in the plate that caused interference?

You can literally power the whole plate with just the stormlight you inhale and all. But people wouldn't know that.

[DanTheSeamonster he/him]

Okay, thanks to you both! I love the books but have never really been into the whole theory aspect of the fan base, so I wasn't really sure about this whole idea. 

 

Also, yes, the Lies of Locke Lamora was pretty freaking fantastic.  

Edited April 5, 2015 by The Crooked Warden