Voidus Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I was figuring that things like Feruchemical bendalloy, iron, steel, and others could help with FTL. My other point was that Feruchemy seems to be too useful and awesome to let it just become obsolete. I refer to the time-honored Sanderson's Zeroeth Law: "ere on the side of awesome." There would still be feruchemists even if it's non-mechanical. In fact it would become more valued since Allomancy would have been made commonly available. 1
Oudeis he/him Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Bendalloy/Cadmium are both external non-physical metals so I don't imagine the effects would be as bad even for Mistings/Mistborn using it, let alone simply those who undergo it's effects. Well, Spook became a Savant after something close to a year of flaring his metals constantly. Wax says the time dilation is 8x but the text shows it to seem significantly faster. Is there WoB on whether flaring the metal changes the size of the bubble, or the rate of time dilation? If it makes it go a quarter against as fast, that means to be a Cadmium Savant, you'll have to burn for a solid year, and 10 years will have passed outside. Even if there's no significant change to the Misting's spiritweb from use of this external metal, there would still be an impact. People are mentioning "feruchemical savanthood." I have my own theories on the subject. Short version, I don't see a reason to assume feruchmical savanthood has to work exactly like allomantic savanthood, though I conceded that maybe it does. I just think we've seen hemalurgic creations, and we've seen allomantic creations, and they are incredibly different from each other; there's no reason a feruchemical creation would just be a clone of an allomantic creation. 1
Voidus Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Well, Spook became a Savant after something close to a year of flaring his metals constantly. Wax says the time dilation is 8x but the text shows it to seem significantly faster. Is there WoB on whether flaring the metal changes the size of the bubble, or the rate of time dilation? If it makes it go a quarter against as fast, that means to be a Cadmium Savant, you'll have to burn for a solid year, and 10 years will have passed outside. Even if there's no significant change to the Misting's spiritweb from use of this external metal, there would still be an impact. People are mentioning "feruchemical savanthood." I have my own theories on the subject. Short version, I don't see a reason to assume feruchmical savanthood has to work exactly like allomantic savanthood, though I conceded that maybe it does. I just think we've seen hemalurgic creations, and we've seen allomantic creations, and they are incredibly different from each other; there's no reason a feruchemical creation would just be a clone of an allomantic creation. That's a good point to consider, although if it was related to space travel that kind of time period isn't unreasonable to consider a possibility. But I definitely don't think there would be many Cadmium savants. Or for that matter Bendalloy savants, 1 for the cost of the metals to constantly flare it like that but also you'd age at least 8x faster than everyone else which would kind of suck. Imagine having to wait 8 years in between cosmere book releases? 1
Sirce Luckwielder he/him Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 There would still be feruchemists even if it's non-mechanical. In fact it would become more valued since Allomancy would have been made commonly available. I am pretty sure that they will be few and far between though. Even with having Spook be a Lerasium Mistborn there has been no Mistborn after him. All full Feruchemists are gone too. There are only Mistings and Ferings left. Maybe this is on purpose by Harmony and maybe it is just simply because the bloodlines are becoming too weak. I bet that the main characters of each book will be Metalurgists, but it seems that society as a whole won't have many left. 1
Voidus Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I am pretty sure that they will be few and far between though. Even with having Spook be a Lerasium Mistborn there has been no Mistborn after him. All full Feruchemists are gone too. There are only Mistings and Ferings left. Maybe this is on purpose by Harmony and maybe it is just simply because the bloodlines are becoming too weak. I bet that the main characters of each book will be Metalurgists, but it seems that society as a whole won't have many left. From memory the plan is for them to become more common actually, weaker in power but more numerous, I'll try to find the WoB on it. 2
Flywinged he/him Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Here are a couple I though of: Tin hearing aids Steel Magnetic levitation trains Steel and Iron automatic doors so the people of Scadrial can be as lazy as us Copper/Aluminum safes (not sure exactly how this power would manifest. Maybe just make other Allomantic powers null, and couldn't be located with steel or iron.) Steel-push powered guns I'm sure brass and zinc could be used as some sort of pharmaceutical. (I would just like to point out I spelled that correctly without spell check. I'm very proud of myself) Using chromium pills to drug people (I admit this is very similar to what the LR did) I'm sure surrounding a factory in a Bendalloy time bubble, or just using small bubbles of Bendalloy inside of certain mechanisms, can be used to speed up efficiency. So like, surrounding a computer or part of the computer in order to speed up processing power. Bronze binoculars or telescopes? If bronze can detect investure (It's a stretch because I have no idea if that is what it does) but potentially bronze telescopes could be used to locate other shardworlds in the Cosmere. The binoculars could just be some sort of military weapon. Make any sort of machine out of pewter in order to increase power Surround something in Cadmium in order to be more precise. Not sure how this would work, but if you could put a mechanism of a machine inside a Cadmium bubble, then what is inside could be controlled by something on the outside with much more precision. Or some chemical reactions could be controlled better because timing would not be as important because it would take place slower. These kind of deteriorated as I kept listing them, but I think the maglev trains sound really feasible. 3
Sirce Luckwielder he/him Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 From memory the plan is for them to become more common actually, weaker in power but more numerous, I'll try to find the WoB on it. I hadn't heard of that, thanks. [*]Bronze binoculars or telescopes? If bronze can detect investure (It's a stretch because I have no idea if that is what it does) but potentially bronze telescopes could be used to locate other shardworlds in the Cosmere. The binoculars could just be some sort of military weapon. I would be extremely interested to see if this worked. If bronze can be used to sense machines that use this, it can be a form of radar or a positioning device. 1
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