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The Final Empire was book one of a trilogy.

 

Shadows of Self will be book one of a trilogy. Alloy of Law isn't part of any series, it is simply 'A Mistborn Novel' as it states on the front cover.

 

I meant that Alloy of Law is to the Era 2 quadology as The Final Empire is to the Era 1 trilogy. Both books had a story resolution. Outside of wanting to know what happens to Scadrial after TLR is killed, there was no real reason, story wise, to continue reading the Era 1 trilogy. there was no cliff-hanger, and the story was complete. Same with Alloy of Law.

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You could make the same argument about many trilogies, or even complete series' of books.  In The Final Empire, there were questions left over - Vin and the mists, the Lord Ruler's final words, for example.

 

I don't remember too well the ending of Alloy of Law - I only read it once when I got the book from the library a couple of years ago, but I have recently bought it and am in the process of reading it again. If I remember correctly though, there isn't any kind of cliffhanger or lingering questions. Not about the storyline in the book at least.

 

I'll admit I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

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Um

 

Wax threatens his father, Marasi sees Marsh, and Miles starts talking about some other people we presume to be from the other continent on Scadrial. Also, the Kandra make a reappearance.

 

From what I understand is that the second will be the one with 80's tech, and the third with future tech. AoL era is separate from these, with 1920's tech I think it is. They are meant to show history of Scadrial post HoA and pre 2nd trilogy, with fun characters. 

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I have a problem with how each book ends.  You know that thing where there stops being more pages?  Comes up each time.

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so much discussion about what boils down to semantics. if you want, you can consider alloy of law to be a prequel to the second trilogy.

 

And speaking of trilogies, the original plan was for three trilogies (one in the ashworld, one with contemporary era technology, and one in the future), alloy of law sparked another trilogy, so now there will be 4 mistborn trilogies, one of which has 4 books. And who knows what else brandon will happen to randomly write as an excercise or while sleepwalking. it's going to rival the wheel of time in length, and it's not even brandon's main work.

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Ok, I finally have proof to stand by assertion that Alloy of Law is not part of the second Mistborn trilogy.

 


 That is not, and Alloy of Law is not, a part of the second trilogy. 

 

This was from Brandon during his signing in Manchester in August last year. The link to the full interview is here:

 

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/14404-manchester-signing-august-5-2014/?p=166899

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Ok, I finally have proof to stand by assertion that Alloy of Law is not part of the second Mistborn trilogy.

 

 

 

This was from Brandon during his signing in Manchester in August last year. The link to the full interview is here:

 

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/14404-manchester-signing-august-5-2014/?p=166899

 

Er...not to rain on your parade, but at that time, "second trilogy" would mean the Era 3 trilogy. That is besides the point, though, as I understand your point. I think you are misunderstanding mine (though that is probably mostly my fault, I'm bad at explaining things some times) .

 

I called it a quadology because Alloy of Law, though a separate story, is about the same main characters, the same city, on the same world, but stands on its own. Similarly, The Final Empire, in the Era 1 trilogy, stands on its own. The story is contained to just that book (the overthrowing of TLR), and just about all your questions are answered. Yes, as 17th Sharders we still have questions, just as we still have questions about Warbreaker and Elantris, his two actual stand alone novels. But the general populace is satisfied with the ending of the book. That is why I made the Harry Potter comment, because even though there are a handful of questions, the story is resolved. As such, saying Alloy of Law is not a part of the trilogy/quadology is like saying Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone is not a part of the Harry Potter series.

 

That all being said, as king of nowhere points out, it is all semantics. Obviously you can view it as a separate entity, while I don't. It really does not matter.

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You could make the same argument about many trilogies, or even complete series' of books.  In The Final Empire, there were questions left over - Vin and the mists, the Lord Ruler's final words, for example.

 

I don't remember too well the ending of Alloy of Law - I only read it once when I got the book from the library a couple of years ago, but I have recently bought it and am in the process of reading it again. If I remember correctly though, there isn't any kind of cliffhanger or lingering questions. Not about the storyline in the book at least.

 

I'll admit I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

 

There were as many unanswered questions in The Alloy of Law as there were in The Final Empire:

Where the rest of the kidnapped women were, what the ultimate plan with them was, what was in the book Marsh handed over and what was meant by Miles' last words, just off the top of my head.

In fact, there may have been more unanswered questions.

 

so much discussion about what boils down to semantics. if you want, you can consider alloy of law to be a prequel to the second trilogy.

 

And speaking of trilogies, the original plan was for three trilogies (one in the ashworld, one with contemporary era technology, and one in the future), alloy of law sparked another trilogy, so now there will be 4 mistborn trilogies, one of which has 4 books. And who knows what else brandon will happen to randomly write as an excercise or while sleepwalking. it's going to rival the wheel of time in length, and it's not even brandon's main work.

 

Brandon learned math from the same guy who taught Douglas Adams.

 

...TO THE BAT-SANDERSONFACTS THREAD, ROBIN!

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Alloy is book one of a four part series, not a standalone.  Yes Brandon said that he plotted out the next three books like a trilogy, but you know what else he plotted as a trilogy?  Words of Radiance.  Alloy was originally meant to be a short story, not a novel (and certainly not a series) it grew as he wrote it.  When he finished, and realized that there were going to be more books he sat down and made an outline for the last three books.

 

Also Blaze is correct in saying that the "second trilogy" Brandon is referring to is the modern trilogy.

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I have a problem with how each book ends.  You know that thing where there stops being more pages?  Comes up each time.

 

It's especially egregious with AoL, though, given how much shorter it is than the other Mistborn books.  95,000 words just isn't enough.

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