gjustice99 she/her Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) When the shard Honor was splintered, its holder may have survived for a time. WETLANDERDid the Splintering happen before the Recreance?BRANDON SANDERSON I will reveal this as we go. However, be aware that in the past, when a Shard was killed, the person holding it, it is a slow burn to actually kill someone; because power cannot be destroyed. So, what it means to be killed means something a little different in these cases.HOSERDid Tanavast survive Honor's splintering?BRANDON SANDERSONTanavast is dead. Good question. However, that is as of the start of The Way of Kings.HOSERSo he could have survived the Splintering...BRANDON SANDERSONHe could have survived the Splintering.HOSER...as a mortal...BRANDON SANDERSONWell, he could have survived for a time, but then he could not have then...HOSER...passed away in his sleep...BRANDON SANDERSONRight. The implications of this are vast, I think. Edited January 19, 2015 by gjustice99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Would you say the implications are TanaVast? I am so sorry. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird he/him Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 No need to apologize, that is quite clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII he/him Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Upvote Cam you sly dog. TanaVast Heh heh Do you think that was when he made the visions??? When he told Dalinar that Odium had killed him, one final up yours to the big guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisana she/her Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I've a question that I think could be related to this (hope you've not already discussed about it): what happen to the power held by the Shard when it is splintered? It is completely lost or it could be gathered somehow? In other words, it is possible to recreate Adonalsium or now there is less power than before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjustice99 she/her Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) I've a question that I think could be related to this (hope you've not already discussed about it): what happen to the power held by the Shard when it is splintered? It is completely lost or it could be gathered somehow? In other words, it is possible to recreate Adonalsium or now there is less power than before? CHAOSIs Splintering a Shard permanent?BRANDON SANDERSONNo. So basically you could put the pieces back together. Edited January 19, 2015 by gjustice99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort he/him Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 So basically you could put the pieces back together. The proof of this is in Adonalsium's splintering. Sazed has combined two f the splinters of Adonalsium - the Shaards Ruin and Preservation. What happened there is like the splintering of Honour, only on a larger scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjustice99 she/her Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 The proof of this is in Adonalsium's splintering. Sazed has combined two f the splinters of Adonalsium - the Shaards Ruin and Preservation. What happened there is like the splintering of Honour, only on a larger scale. How is putting the pieces together like splintering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort he/him Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Sorry, I didn't explain it very well. The shattering of Adonalsium was like the splintering of Honour, just on a larger scale. The main difference being, Adonalsium had all the different attributes which became the Shards. The Shards themselves only had one of the attributes, so when they splintered, their power was dispersed, as opposed to contained in Shards. I've got no real evidence for this, I just think it makes sense. Edit: If anything, I think they should be named the other way. Adonalsium splintered into the different Shards, and some of those have been shattered, dispersing their power. Edited January 19, 2015 by Bort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisana she/her Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 So basically you could put the pieces back together. Thank you! So, we can think that maybe there could be someone in the Cosmere trying to put the pieces together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindel he/him Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) The shattering of Adonalsium was like the splintering of Honour, just on a larger scale. The main difference being, Adonalsium had all the different attributes which became the Shards. The Shards themselves only had one of the attributes, so when they splintered, their power was dispersed, as opposed to contained in Shards. Splinters can have their own "sub-intent", likely related to the Shard's original intent, but more specific. WoB: JOSH Do Splinters have their own Intent, in addition to the Shards'? BRANDON SANDERSON Splinters often have their own intent. Edited January 19, 2015 by Lindel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze1616 he/him Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Splinters can have their own "sub-intent", likely related to the Shard's original intent, but more specific. WoB: More than this, splinters often are sentient. Shards are not, unless they are picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlee Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Well, that makes sense, as I can see honorspren and highspren as having two different "subintents" of Honor. The argument can be made that it's not honorable to do anything illegal, though Syl tells Kaladin it's okay "as long as it is right" whereas from what we've seen of the Skybreakers, they are much less concerned with "what is right" (which is highly subjective anyway) and more concerned with what is legal. But many people would interpret following the law and justice to be honorable as well. It's interesting to think that the true definition of honorable should probably include both of those aspects..... That makes me think that half the orders have an "Honor sub-intent spren" and the other half have a "Cultivation sub-intent spren" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) That makes me think that half the orders have an "Honor sub-intent spren" and the other half have a "Cultivation sub-intent spren" They're a mix sometimes too: QuestionA question related to that. There’s an idea going around that all the spren that can Nahel Bond, all Knight Radiant spren are called honorspren, and then Nohadon talks specifically about honorspren. Is that the case? You know, is it just the Windrunner spren, or is it all the spren? Brandon Sanderson I’m going to deal with this in the next book. So I’ll just go ahead and let it be a literal RAFO. It is coming. (interruption, leading Brandon to lose his train of thought) So what we are dealing with here is that all Spren are indeed all pieces of the one who has gone, so those spren are all- except the Windrunner spren, the spren like Syl, have certain umm. ZAS Nohadon mentioned that "All the spren aren’t as discerning as honorspren." BRANDON SANDERSON So there has been dissension among them about who gets to call themselves honorspren, if that makes sense, and there is some disagreement among scholars about which ones are really, you know "This is what defines an honorspren". But the spren you are running into are all (something) of either Honor or Cultivation, or some mixture between them. And you can usually tell the ones that are more Honor, and the ones that are more Cultivation. That should be able to be (something). (source) Edited January 19, 2015 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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