Sasukerinnegan he/him Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I now believe that Honor doesnt really condemn knowing the future. “To speak of what might be is forbidden,” the voice said. “To speak of what was depends on perspective. But I will try to help.” Knowing what might be isnt forbidden. Speaking of it is. Now, as the Truthwatchers were esoteric in nature, their order being formed entirely of those who never spoke or wrote of what they did, in this lies frustration for those who would see their exceeding secrecy from the outside; they were not naturally inclined to explanation; and in the case of Corberon’s disagreements, their silence was not a sign of an exceeding abundance of disdain, but rather an exceeding abundance of tact. I suspect that the Truthwatchers obey Isaac Asimov's psychohistory's second law. For those who don't know, Isaac Asimov wrote the Foundation trilogy, where he expounded a fictional society based on the science of psychohistory (a science to predict the future.). Psychohistory had 2 basic laws - 1. That the population it applied to be large enough so as to make statistical interpretation possible (like quantum theory, where behaviour of individual molecules are unpredictable, but behaviours of large nos. of molecules are.) 2. That the population whose future was being predicted not know the results or the science of psychohistory, so that their reactions aren't altered by such knowledge. The truthwatchers seem to behave similarly, from what little information we have. They don't reveal the future to other Orders, but they keep it to themselves. Even Honor says that SPEAKING of the future is forbidden. What do you guys think? Edited December 18, 2014 by Sasukerinnegan 1
Mimiddle04 Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Something that might support this is Renarin is right about the date of the Everstorm but wrong about everyone's fate. He says they're all doomed, but he is wrong (so far). So maybe he can see the future but not everyone's specifics like date of death and all that.
Oudeis he/him Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 One of the Visions... Starfalls, I believe?
hoser he/him Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Where is that first quote from? One of the Visions... Starfalls, I believe? What he said. “I miss these times,” Taffa said. Dalinar jumped. That voice wasn’t hers. It was a man’s voice, deep and powerful. It was the voice that spoke to him during every vision. “Who are you?” Dalinar asked. “They were one, once,” Taffa—or whatever it was— said. “The orders. Men. Not without problems or strife, of course. But focused.” Dalinar felt a chill. Something about that voice always seemed faintly familiar to him. It had even in the first vision. “Please . You have to tell me what this is, why you are showing me these things. Who are you? Some servant of the Almighty?” “I wish I could help you,” Taffa said, looking at Dalinar but ignoring his questions. “You have to unite them.” “As you’ve said before! But I need help. The things the knight said about Alethkar. Are they true? Can we really be that way again?” “To speak of what might be is forbidden,” the voice said. “To speak of what was depends on perspective. But I will try to help.” “Then give me more than vague answers!” Taffa regarded him, somber. Somehow, by starlight alone, he could make out her brown eyes. There was something deep, something daunting, hiding behind them. “At least tell me this,” Dalinar said, grasping for a specific question to ask. “I have trusted Highprince Sadeas, but my son—Adolin— thinks I am a fool to do so. Should I continue to trust Sadeas?” “Yes,” the being said. “This is important. Do not let strife consume you. Be strong. Act with honor , and honor will aid you.” Sanderson, Brandon (2010-08-31). The Way of Kings (The Stormlight Archive) (p. 307). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition.
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