Feeling About Reen

[gjustice99 she/her]

I feel like there is room for many different feeling about everything that Reen did to Vin. Please cast your vote before reading on (I do not wish to influence your vote with my opinion).

I feel like he did everything he did to help Vin. He beat her which helped her get so good at burning pewter. He died protecting her by claiming that she had died years before. He withstood torture by Inquisitors (which is probably the most painful form of torture anyone could ever endure) and never broke. He didn't even have pewter to dull the pain! That must have taken so much strength so why would he bother going through that much suffering if he didn't really love Vin?

Edited November 30, 2014 by gjustice99

[A Joe in the Bush]

I believe that Brandon has stated that both Vin and her sister snapped at birth. Reen didn't snap her.

[gjustice99 she/her]

Well, even with that, what he did probably helped her power with pewter.

[Redbird he/him]

I think in his mind he was trying to help Vin, but he may have had some issues due to his childhood, causing him to be kind of irrational and violent.

 

Edit: Kind of may have been the wrong word, but I can't think of a good substitute.

Edited December 2, 2014 by Redbird3000

[WeiryWriter he/him]

Ruin was just pretending to be Reen in HoA, just as he was pretending to be Kelsier to Spook and Quellion.  Reen /was/ a real person though (just dead).

[name_here]

His actions seem pretty reasonable and justified once you realize he knew that Inquisitors were targeting Vin specifically. That's why he kept them moving around, made Vin keep a low profile, and quite possibly even why he insisted on her dressing like a boy.

 

His parenting skills did leave something to be desired, but it wasn't a role he was properly prepared for.

[Pathfinder]

My one gripe is he couldn't have known she was mistborn, so him beating her to make her better with pewter could not have been his intention because he would have not known that would have been the result. However I am in the camp of he loved Vin, simply because if he didn't then there was absolutely no reason to keep her around. He could have easily made a life low key as a thief on his own without having to look out for a girl who was in perpetual danger of being attacked and raped, an extra mouth to feed, slowed him down due to her age, and continually having to be on the move to avoid hunting inquisitors. 

[gjustice99 she/her]

My one gripe is he couldn't have known she was mistborn, so him beating her to make her better with pewter could not have been his intention because he would have not known that would have been the result. However I am in the camp of he loved Vin, simply because if he didn't then there was absolutely no reason to keep her around. He could have easily made a life low key as a thief on his own without having to look out for a girl who was in perpetual danger of being attacked and raped, an extra mouth to feed, slowed him down due to her age, and continually having to be on the move to avoid hunting inquisitors. 

i agree he may not have definitively known that she was mistborn but there are definitely clues that could have alerted him that she was/may have been:

1.) she was a half-breed and they can be mistings (though he may not have known that was possible but with skaa mistings being the top tier of the underground he may have known)

 

2.) the Steel Inquisition was targeting her which meant she must have been special

[Pathfinder]

i agree he may not have definitively known that she was mistborn but there are definitely clues that could have alerted him that she was/may have been:

1.) she was a half-breed and they can be mistings (though he may not have known that was possible but with skaa mistings being the top tier of the underground he may have known)

 

2.) the Steel Inquisition was targeting her which meant she must have been special

I am currently re-reading mistborn, and I discovered that when Vin and Kelsier find Camon's body, Kelsier states that Camon probably know Vin was a misting, so I agree it would make sense for Reen to have a feeling she is a misting, though we do not know if she used her luck while he was alive, so I am not sure that just because Camon knew, Reen would have known. 

 

True, though another possibility is Reen knew Vin's mother was a prostitute, and that her father was a very high tier obligator, so that could be reason enough for the inquisitors to hunt her down to kill her. 

[gjustice99 she/her]

I am currently re-reading mistborn, and I discovered that when Vin and Kelsier find Camon's body, Kelsier states that Camon probably know Vin was a misting, so I agree it would make sense for Reen to have a feeling she is a misting, though we do not know if she used her luck while he was alive, so I am not sure that just because Camon knew, Reen would have known. 

 

True, though another possibility is Reen knew Vin's mother was a prostitute, and that her father was a very high tier obligator, so that could be reason enough for the inquisitors to hunt her down to kill her. 

Actually, it can be insinuate that she had been using her luck for a while, as she had used it on Marsh earlier, and she was pretty good with it at the beginning of Mistborn 1 so we can kinda assume she had been using it for a while, and i always assumed he had been gone a few months, definitely less than a year. Do we have a WOB on how long before the beginning of  Mistborn 1 Reen left Vin?

[Pathfinder]

Actually, it can be insinuate that she had been using her luck for a while, as she had used it on Marsh earlier, and she was pretty good with it at the beginning of Mistborn 1 so we can kinda assume she had been using it for a while, and i always assumed he had been gone a few months, definitely less than a year. Do we have a WOB on how long before the beginning of  Mistborn 1 Reen left Vin?

Ok, so I did some searching in my kindle. Vin soothed Marsh a few months ago, I take that to typically mean three. Reen snuck away from Camon's crew a half a year ago. When I looked up her luck, it says she has been training through years of subtle practice, and it wasn't till she was 10 years old that she realized other people couldn't do what she could. Hmm, when I found that info, I was going to say you got the point, and I was remembering incorrectly, but as I typed it, I realize, she said she didn't know what she did was unique till she was 10. If Reen knew what she was doing, why not tell her before she turned 10? It sounds like she realized on her own. Now lets say it was Reen that pointed out she could do this, and told her she was unique which is why she realized when she was 10. Why wouldn't he then tell her she was a misting? She always thought of it as luck, so why did he never correct this assumption? She also says that he always told her to make yourself indispensable so you don't get back stabbed. If he knew she was a misting, and that ability made her indispensable, he was very resourceful, i think it would have been very easy for him to get his hands on brass for her to use. Conversely, if he knew enough that the inquisitors were hunting her for being a misting, would it not be a stretch for him to know using her powers would attract them so would then forbid her from using it? Just some thoughts bouncing around in my head, and spit balling it to help me think through it

[gjustice99 she/her]

He may not have told her she was a misting because she was young and would maybe tell someone which would get her killed.

[Pathfinder]

He may not have told her she was a misting because she was young and would maybe tell someone which would get her killed.

But that still results in the problem of her using it without realizing she needed to hide it, which would most DEFINITELY get her killed. And as shown in the book, what nearly happened because she soothed an obligator. 

Edited December 15, 2014 by Pathfinder

[gjustice99 she/her]

But that still results in the problem of her using it without realizing she needed to hide it, which would most DEFINITELY get her killed. And as shown in the book, what nearly happened because she soothed an obligator.

You have a very valid point.