MadMax Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Hey everyone! I'm a long time lurker but first time poster. Before I go into a thought I had I just wanted to thank you guys for this forum. I have spent hours on here reading all things Sanderson and you people are awesome! But enough kissing butt... So I was thinking about why do spren (in shardblade form) scream when they are summoned into the physical plane? I understand that they are dead before that but why come back screaming? That seems weird to me, like shouldn't they come back confused, scared or something along those lines? Then I had a thought, what if they are sent to hell...and by that I mean Braize or whatever the place it is the heralds go after desolation. Like their bond is somehow related to the oathpack in that regard. So they don't just die they are actually sent there and tortured. Now that also got me thinking about the Taln debate. What if he is actually a spren that somehow got put into a human body and returned to Roshar. In his interlude he says how the words he speaks are not his but someone else's. So maybe a spren that was sent there somehow hijacked his physical body. Now all this is a rather out there theory but it's been on my mind for awhile and I don't have any friends that read Sanderson so y'all are my only outlet to discuss these things. Thanks for listening and let me know what y'all think! Also sorry about grammar and spelling...I ain't very good at computering... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oudeis he/him Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Syl says that the Blades don't come back to life, they come back to a semblance of life. I figure they're not smart enough to think or comprehend, they're just like a scrap, a shadow of their former selves, and the last thing they remember is being betrayed and killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok he/him Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Yes, I know I'm awesome, but you should really share that appreciation with others. I would name names, but then it'd make them embarrassed, and those I forgot to mention would be upset. It would be this whole thing. Let's just pretend that you said everyone here was awesome and move on, ok? Ok! There's a WoB that the effect of the Recreance on the spren was to rip out a piece of them, and that it was a similar to someone with a datajack being unplugged while they're jacked in. So, there's a jagged piece of their consciousness that's just been ripped out, gone, and they can feel the void of what should be there. Since that actually doesn't make a lot of sense to me (I mean, I understand that the whole datajack and thing works that way, but I never understood why, and the explanations I've read for the last 16 years [holy crap it's been that long since I discovered ShadowRun and CyberPunk? God...] still seem like nothing more than an excuse to have a consequence they thought would be cool) I have invented my own, alternative explanation. Think of the spren of a Shardblade as a burn victim in a coma. When they are summoned, they are forced into consciousness and the pain of second- and third-degree burns across their entire body, with no painkillers. They're not going to have calm, rational discussion about why they were in the house when someone locked them in and set it ablaze, they're just going to scream as every nerve in their body is triggered with the sensation of burning godawful pain. Still though, the thought of Taln being a spren is not as far-fetched as you might think. Same would be true for any of the Heralds, really. I mean, the Stormfather is a spren (of sorts), and is a worshipped entity. The Heralds are held in slightly lower esteem. Many people across Roshar are actively trying to return them. There are certain acts and attributes that particularly attract a spren, and presumably this would be the same that would attract the spren of a Herald. There was even a thread many months ago discussing why there are no spren of the Heralds (sorry, no link, can't find. I might have dreamed it.) Oh, and welcome to the forums! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted November 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Okay see that makes sense. Maybe I was just reading a little too much into the screaming. I was even thinking that the spren have their own version of Braize. Like they copy the effects of the oathpack so much they even recreated the punishments of it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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