Thrill in visions?

[Adonalsium Will Return He/him]

In WoK pg. 298, it says, 

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Dalinar scrambled away, old instincts kicking in, pain evaporating as the battle Thrill surged through him. (Emphasis added)

How did Nergaoul access the visions? If this has an explanation, could other Unmade learn to do it?

 

[Treamayne]

22 hours ago, Adonalsium Will Return said:

In WoK pg. 298, it says, 

How did Nergaoul access the visions? If this has an explanation, could other Unmade learn to do it?

 

I do not think that Nergaoul accessed the vision at all, their influence is generally passive (rioting an emotion for all that feel that emotion in an area). While Nergaoul can affect a specific individual directly, that is not common. Also, Nergaoul's effect takes place in the Cognitive realm, not the spiritual realm, so Nergaoul only needs to be close enough to the physical location of Dalinar's body (Warcamps) to affect his Cognitive state while he happens to experience a Spiritual Realm vision. 

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In Chapter 19 of The Way of Kings, when Dalinar has a vision of fighting Voidbringers (maybe something else?) as a farmer, he says that he felt the Thrill in the vision. Does this mean that Nergaoul was active there, at the time that vision was "recorded" or was it Dalinar's viewing of the vision that was affected by the Thrill? Would the actual person whose perspective he was seeing have felt the Thrill if he had fought?

Brandon Sanderson

This is a great question, and one I've never been asked before. The answer is going to be a little vague.

First, Dalinar could have felt the Thrill from Nergaoul, and imported it into the vision.

Second, Nergaoul could have been active then, and the farmer could have felt it when he fought.

So both theories are valid. Which is it? I am going to hang back from answering this for now, as I am digging more into the Unmade in a future book.

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Why was Dalinar able to feel the Thrill during his visions from the Stormfather?

Brandon Sanderson

Why was Dalinar able to feel the Thrill during his visions from the Stormfather. Well that would indicate that the same reason he feels the Thrill now still was in existence. Well not-- I mean was still affecting him. Does that make sense? He was in the real world, his body was in the real world. Whatever makes him feel the Thrill was still affecting him. Does that make any sense?

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Hope that helps. 

Edited April 23 by Treamayne
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It's a couple of things. Firstly what Treamayne said seems right to me, Dalinar is physically present in the Shattered Plains during his visions, and his consciousness is not separated from his body, he jerks around and speaks out loud, like a person nearly awake from a dream. He is able to teach himself to move and act in the vision while making himself sit still and speak intelligently to a listening scribe. So he's there and so is the Thrill.

But it's another thing that I think is just as important and meaningful- he is a man of Alethkar, and Alethi culture is wound around the Thrill the way American culture is wound around Football and Cars. They don't understand or experience it as an alien force driving them crazy, usually. The way they understand it, that's just how it feels to be a badass Alethi dominating your opponents. I can get really hungry, I can get really aroused, I can get the Thrill. The idea that it's a demon doesn't come up for at least centuries before Dalinar's story.

And it's reasonable to imagine that a man of Alethkar might not understand or care, when you consider all this, where his own mind and emotions end, and the Thrill begins. It feels to him like his own wrath and joy and desire, off the chain. So maybe just starting to get normal human amped up for a fight, an Alethi would think of it as the first hit of the Thrill coming on.