Shades ‘n’ Stuff

[Through the Living Shadow he/him]

So (imma make a theory that has no cosmere impact, just about the specific mechanics)

Shades from the Forests of Heck dislike Blood, Running, and Fire

They get violent around it.

I’m guessing the reason they get violent is because

1) when Ambition (it was Ambition, right?) was splintered, the investiture soaked the SR, PR, CR. Or maybe only one. But! When people die, the investiture rushes into their body as the vacuum is created and assumes the vague shape of the body’s previous Spiritweb. 

2) Nazh told someone that making a cognitive shadow (as he knows it, a Shade) is supposed to be done with specific processes. He implies that it will be unstable otherwise.

3) Both of these would suggest that the passive creation of a Shade is very sloppy, further supported by their supernatural/strange tendencies. 

Each of these actions are Ambitious, and each of them send spiritual/cognitive across the scattered investiture, and will trigger the Ambitious intent—which is in such a primitive state as to incite violence.

Edited January 25 by SpiritOfWrath

[NovaRay He/him]

4 hours ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

So (imma make a theory that has no cosmere impact, just about the specific mechanics)

Shades from the Forests of Heck dislike Silver

They get violent around it.

I’m guessing the reason they get violent is because

1) when Ambition (it was Ambition, right?) was splintered, the investiture soaked the SR, PR, CR. Or maybe only one. But! When people die, the investiture rushes into their body as the vacuum is created and assumes the vague shape of the body’s previous Spiritweb. 

2) Nazh told someone that making a cognitive shadow (as he knows it, a Shade) is supposed to be done with specific processes. He implies that it will be unstable otherwise.

3) Both of these would suggest that the passive creation of a Shade is very sloppy, further supported by their supernatural/strange tendencies. So when silver is introduced, the Spiritweb-mimic begins to collapse, reverting to the investiture’s original intent, which may be interpreted as violent, especially as such a primitive similitude of intelligence.

But this doesn’t explain why they get angry/violent even just at seeing it. And I think the threat of the silver scares their Ambition, provoking it.

Thats it. I think it can be extended to the other things (I.e. blood threatens the established spiritweb, which then extends to the Intent, but eh)

I haven’t read the threnody book in a while but I don’t remeber shades getting violent around silver only getting destroyed by it.

[Through the Living Shadow he/him]

9 hours ago, NovaRay said:

I haven’t read the threnody book in a while but I don’t remeber shades getting violent around silver only getting destroyed by it.

Oh really?

Hmm

oh no, they avoided silver

They got violent around blades, fire, and blood, right? I’ll edit it in a bit, then.

[Qianweilian He/him]

1 hour ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

They got violent around blades, fire, and blood, right? I’ll edit it in a bit, then.

The simple rules were the following:

1. Do not shed blood. (doesn't apply to accidents/normal stuff, only violence, makes the shades most dangerous)
2. Do not start a fire. (only starting a fire, existing fires ignored, blinds & stuns the shades temporarily)
3. Do not run at night. (doesn't make them aggressive immediately, least dangerous)

[Through the Living Shadow he/him]

2 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

The simple rules were the following:

1. Do not shed blood. (doesn't apply to accidents/normal stuff, only violence, makes the shades most dangerous)
2. Do not start a fire. (only starting a fire, existing fires ignored, blinds & stuns the shades temporarily)
3. Do not run at night. (doesn't make them aggressive immediately, least dangerous)

Cool

i got stuf happening rn tho, so it’ll be a bit

[First of the Tide He/him]

So, to be clear, the theory here is that the ambitious nature of the acts prohibited by the three rules are what causes the shade attacks, due to the permeation of the negative ambition-coded investiture at Threnody (the Evil(kind of))?

If so, why don't other ambitious acts trigger them? and why are the shades mad on canticle too?

it's an interesting idea, but it could use some refinement