Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 So just we're clear - Jo clarified there are no double shots so far. Someone shot Axl N1. We don't know who it was and/or if it was Toucan or Ele or someone. Ocho claims the Croc shot and has not been counterclaimed. (Honestly if it was you someone else just cc at this point, go wild, this entire game is a target-rich environment now who gives a f.) There was a single shot N2. Either Ocho or Toucan shot Ele. There's a world Ocho didn't shoot Ele and claimed it and is the last Elim standing. IDK if I buy that world. Flam claims to have scanned Toucan as a V!CS. This is backed by Ocho claiming Toucan claimed to them ( @Scarlet Octopus Actually why didn't you find the claim sus? If you were considering E!CS, isn't 3 x CS even worse and likely indicative something is wrong?) Meerkat claims to have scanned Gecko N1 as V!MB and Zebra N2 as V!Lurcher. Both of these are actually after the claims, and Gecko's claim was soft-validated by Gecko sending me the Tin message before it went live this morning. Beagle claims to have scanned Alb N1 as a regular Villager. Both Axl and Zebra claim to have Lurched me. Let's simply assume all the scans are accurate at the moment. Someone is most certainly lying but I want to see where the scenario takes us for now. 29 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Alive 1. Dragonfly - Lurcher 2. Axolotl - Lurcher 3. Zebra - Lurcher 4. Weasel - Lurcher 5. Toucan - Coinshot 6. Octopus - Coinshot 7. Rhinoceros - Mistborn 8. Flamingo - Kandra -> Seeker 9. Beagle - Mistborn (Seeker N1 - Albatross) 10. Heron - Kandra 11. Gecko - Mistborn (Tineye C2) 12. Dingo 13. Albatross - Vanilla 14. Lion 15. Chameleon 16. Meerkat - Seeker (N1 - Gecko, N2 - Zebra) Ok, that's not as helpful as I'd like. 2 minutes ago, Salmon Meerkat said: Again, I actually just forgot that I scanned you villager. .........Are you sure you scanned me? (Words I'd never thought I'd say in this context but we ball.)
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, Mint Heron said: .........Are you sure you scanned me? (Words I'd never thought I'd say in this context but we ball.) No, I meant Gecko. Sorry again.
Melon Dingo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 GUYS WTF IS THIS GAME IM ON PAGE 4 AND AM SO CONFUSED 20 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said: Also, I'm glad everyone is having fun, but just in case, do remember that this is just a game. Please don't go insane from an internet game. JO THIS GAME IS AMAZING BUT I AM SO MUCH PAST INSANE RN lol
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, Melon Dingo said: GUYS WTF IS THIS GAME IM ON PAGE 4 AND AM SO CONFUSED JO THIS GAME IS AMAZING BUT I AM SO MUCH PAST INSANE RN lol I love I just calmly role-claimed and THE THREAD WENT LITERALLY CRAZY
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Salmon Meerkat said: I love I just calmly role-claimed and THE THREAD WENT LITERALLY CRAZY ...Maybe because, like, 70% of the game just up and roleclaimed and nothing makes sense anymore??? But also like. Guys. Are we exeing Ocho??? Does this make sense I know I know but I also dislike pragmatic arguments and IDK if I want the Zebra train existing everything is just messy rn. IDK man this is insane.
Melon Dingo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Oxblood Beagle said: What did I return to... 1 hour ago, Mint Heron said: HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS BEAGLE HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS? xD
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 12 Posted January 12 @Salmon Meerkat @Taupe Gecko Did y'all ever communicate in PMs throughout the last cycle?
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 55 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: ^ Gecko Too much info, Meerkat seeker fake claim I might be wrong, agree to exe Octo Gecko backed up Meetkat 50 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: ............ Since we all just claiming now I'm a Village Kandra of the 69th generation. I went for Kanga but got beaten to it. ...Yep, basically a regular. ...Yep, Jo and TUM are Evil. Yep. This is fine. Thinking specifically of a fake Seeker claim to score a clear. One V!Seeker and two V!CS is a bit too much clear power on Village side IMO. It is theoretically insane but E!Drake claimed a oneshot Seek to fakeclear his E!teammate before. Bought them I think two cycles before we exed them both. Between Meerkat and Flam I have a better Flam read but recall improving my read on Meerkat at some point. Idk. @A Jo in the Bush ty we good EXCEPT FOR GEN 69 WTF MAN Both Axl and Zebra claim to have Lurched me @Onyx Flamingo Jo confirmed no double shots so far. We would be informed if they happened. Yes, but do to confusion, Toucan might not have known that Chat we need toucan also gnight (for real this time thou)
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 12 Posted January 12 15 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: ...Maybe because, like, 70% of the game just up and roleclaimed and nothing makes sense anymore??? But also like. Guys. Are we exeing Ocho??? Does this make sense I know I know but I also dislike pragmatic arguments and IDK if I want the Zebra train existing everything is just messy rn. IDK man this is insane. I'm cautiously suspicious of Meerkat's Seeker claim. It can be reasonably faked with the Tineye message being identifiable that it came from Gecko, and it's also inconsistent with his D2 behavior, where he suspected Gecko to be an elim
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion: I have a question and IDK if you can answer but I will ask nonetheless. If a Seeker forgot to send in a scan, would you give them a free scan nevertheless? Does this policy apply to Elims forgetting to put in a kill or being too inactive to kill? What about Smokers who don't Smoke or Lurchers who don't Lurch? (I assume not for kandra since you didn't do anything when I said I wasn't hungry last night.) Edit: 2 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: I'm cautiously suspicious of Meerkat's Seeker claim. It can be reasonably faked with the Tineye message being identifiable that it came from Gecko, and it's also inconsistent with his D2 behavior, where he suspected Gecko to be an elim It is curious to me that the GM gives a free scan when the Seeker doesn't put in an action. In that to me that seems very extraordinary, I don't normally see this in most rulesets, and certainly I would find it - odd? - if the GM gave a free Lurch or a free whatever. Like... You know: What is the point of: or IDK man. I agree Compulsives exist but uh...they're not very common in SE no.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Oxblood Beagle said: @Onyx Flamingo Omg I thought others had caught on to your softclaim because you had said that Toucan is v with full certainty that I figured you must have been the Kandra turned Seeker. And in a different post, you asked it like, why wouldn't I know (what Toucan's role is) if (I checked them)? @Indigo Weasel Can I ask what made you decide to claim? From earlier actions, I had thought you were opposed to people claiming roles Feels like things suddenly went into overdrive LOL For those also questioning why I roleclaimed, here: I am against role-claiming, it usually doesn’t help and can put a target on your back. In this case, I roleclaimed in response to another, because that meant four lurchers, roleclaiming in this case allowed me to share my logic. My role isn’t particularly important, and if Elims kill me, then there’s 3 others. However, since I knew I was a lurcher, I was able to talk about how the Elims would probably need a coinshot to balance the teams. If I didn’t roleclaime the entire thing falls apart. Yes, it would have made sense to me, but to everyone else it would just be me saying Octo might be Elim again. Basically, I needed to roleclaim because my role gives me extra info, and without that, the conclusion doesn’t make sense.
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 @Indigo Weasel uce can u pls help ts makes no sense it is a clusterchull
Indigo Weasel Posted January 12 Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: @Indigo Weasel uce can u pls help ts makes no sense it is a clusterchull Like… do you want to know my conclusion of why there are so many Lurchers? Or do you want me to tell you what happened in the last three or so pages? Cause if it’s what just happened, I cannot help you.
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 12 Posted January 12 13 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion: I have a question and IDK if you can answer but I will ask nonetheless. If a Seeker forgot to send in a scan, would you give them a free scan nevertheless? Does this policy apply to Elims forgetting to put in a kill or being too inactive to kill? What about Smokers who don't Smoke or Lurchers who don't Lurch? (I assume not for kandra since you didn't do anything when I said I wasn't hungry last night.) Edit: It is curious to me that the GM gives a free scan when the Seeker doesn't put in an action. In that to me that seems very extraordinary, I don't normally see this in most rulesets, and certainly I would find it - odd? - if the GM gave a free Lurch or a free whatever. Like... You know: What is the point of: or IDK man. I agree Compulsives exist but uh...they're not very common in SE no. Yeah, exactly, like giving a free random target if you forget to submit ends up giving an unfair advantage to the team with that action 1 hour ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: ^ Gecko Too much info, Meerkat seeker fake claim I might be wrong, agree to exe Octo And DF had the same idea where both the context of Gecko's Tineye message and the writing style points to him being Mistborn, so it can be faked. If Meerkat is lying, it's quite possible this is a scheme to stall him and Zebra being exe'd
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, Indigo Weasel said: Like… do you want to know my conclusion of why there are so many Lurchers? Or do you want me to tell you what happened in the last three or so pages? Cause if it’s what just happened, I cannot help you. Tbh both. I cannot make head or tail of the fact there are 4 Lurchers, at least 4 Mistborn, 2 Coinshots, and apparently one E!Seeker and one V!Seeker (who might also be E or fakeclaiming.) Edited to add: 1 minute ago, Oxblood Beagle said: And DF had the same idea where both the context of Gecko's Tineye message and the writing style points to him being Mistborn, so it can be faked. If Meerkat is lying, it's quite possible this is a scheme to stall him and Zebra being exe'd This is why I'm not sure RE: Ocho. In that...well, you've seen my comments on Ocho's PM behaviour and you know my priors about disliking pragmatic exes. The other issue I suppose is for all we know, there's another Mistborn or another kill role floating in those who haven't claimed so a precautionary Ocho exe doesn't really resolve that risk and still requires a Lurcher double up regardless or whatever. IDK, I am not sure of the road ahead. I dislike exeing just because and I think we should minimally try for a good flip. I am considering if that means it is worth flipping Meerkat and acknowledge I am partly blase about this since I can just eat Meerkat but would also (in a V!Meerkat world) be delaying Seeking by one cycle. But this may not matter given Flam and if we have better Flam priors due to Flam being the pivotal voter on Ig D2.
The Unknown Character he/him Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 19 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion: I have a question and IDK if you can answer but I will ask nonetheless. If a Seeker forgot to send in a scan, would you give them a free scan nevertheless? Does this policy apply to Elims forgetting to put in a kill or being too inactive to kill? What about Smokers who don't Smoke or Lurchers who don't Lurch? (I assume not for kandra since you didn't do anything when I said I wasn't hungry last night.) Edit: It is curious to me that the GM gives a free scan when the Seeker doesn't put in an action. In that to me that seems very extraordinary, I don't normally see this in most rulesets, and certainly I would find it - odd? - if the GM gave a free Lurch or a free whatever. Like... You know: What is the point of: or IDK man. I agree Compulsives exist but uh...they're not very common in SE no. PAFO
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) Edited to add 2: I'm also open to suggestions if I should just eat Ele but I don't really feel that's constructive here given the Mistborn nerf in this game and the fact we already have a lot of Mistborn. Edited to add 3: @Oxblood Beagle - Thought: if the GMs give a free scan, then I think Croc should've gotten a free Riot. But we saw no such effect. Edited January 12 by Mint Heron
Melon Dingo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Zebra is village. Im a seeker. I tried to softclaim but no one noticed lol Well, @Ivory Dragonfly may have noticed? But I cant tell.
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Tbh both. I cannot make head or tail of the fact there are 4 Lurchers, at least 4 Mistborn, 2 Coinshots, and apparently one E!Seeker and one V!Seeker (who might also be E or fakeclaiming.) Edited to add: This is why I'm not sure RE: Ocho. In that...well, you've seen my comments on Ocho's PM behaviour and you know my priors about disliking pragmatic exes. The other issue I suppose is for all we know, there's another Mistborn or another kill role floating in those who haven't claimed so a precautionary Ocho exe doesn't really resolve that risk and still requires a Lurcher double up regardless or whatever. IDK, I am not sure of the road ahead. I dislike exeing just because and I think we should minimally try for a good flip. I am considering if that means it is worth flipping Meerkat and acknowledge I am partly blase about this since I can just eat Meerkat but would also (in a V!Meerkat world) be delaying Seeking by one cycle. But this may not matter given Flam and if we have better Flam priors due to Flam being the pivotal voter on Ig D2. I'm willing to vote on it. Quartz Zebra Salmon Meerkat I feel like things aren't adding up with both the Gecko check and the behavior towards Gecko on D2. Plus, the Zebra check being a "free" check due to forgetting to submit an action. I can buy it if there was actual reasoning for the check since I think if I were Seeker, I would have also checked them, but it's just not adding up that someone would be given a free check and coincidentally on someone that has a lot of suspicion on them right now He did vote Kanga on D1, but that was very early in the day phase, and Rhino also had suggested an idea that maybe it is intentional for the elims to poke-distance (Kanga voted Croc, Ig voted Kanga). It's possible the play might be to act as a lost villager while the rest of the village go after each other. 3 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: Zebra is village. Im a seeker. I tried to softclaim but no one noticed lol Well, @Ivory Dragonfly may have noticed? But I cant tell. Huh what Edited January 12 by Oxblood Beagle Putting vote in bold
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: Zebra is village. Im a seeker. I tried to softclaim but no one noticed lol Well, @Ivory Dragonfly may have noticed? But I cant tell. Spoiler Edited to add: Ok who did you scan N1 / N2. @Oxblood Beagle: Spoiler Edited to add 2: I have just about had it with the karking Seekers and Lurchers and Coinshots and Mistborn in this karking Village, who do I gotta kill to get something vaguely interesting instead of 69th generation karking kandra. Edited January 12 by Mint Heron
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Reveal hidden contents Edited to add: Ok who did you scan N1 / N2. @Oxblood Beagle: Hide contents Lmaooo you being saved last night, only for you to be sent to the trenches today
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Lmaooo you being saved last night, only for you to be sent to the trenches today Wallahi brother this was not on my bingo card for today ._. Edited to add: Meerkat Edited to add 2: Quote Sunburst Toucan (1): Melon Dingo Scarlet Octopus (5): Taupe Gecko, Scarlet Octopus, Quartz Zebra, Onyx Flamingo, Ivory Dragonfly Quartz Zebra (2): Violet Axolotl, Indigo Weasel Plum Rhinoceros (2): Sunburst Toucan, Magenta Albatross Salmon Meerkat (2): Mint Heron, Oxblood Beagle I think that's everyone? Problem @Oxblood Beagle (lol sorry I guess I need my SAN-preserving sounding boards) - if Dingo isn't BSing, then we have double validation on Zebra, which kills the lying Meerkat theory. Meerkat could still be lying, this much is true, it's just...yeah. Edited January 12 by Mint Heron
Indigo Weasel Posted January 12 Posted January 12 41 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Tbh both. I cannot make head or tail of the fact there are 4 Lurchers, at least 4 Mistborn, 2 Coinshots, and apparently one E!Seeker and one V!Seeker (who might also be E or fakeclaiming.) Edited to add: This is why I'm not sure RE: Ocho. In that...well, you've seen my comments on Ocho's PM behaviour and you know my priors about disliking pragmatic exes. The other issue I suppose is for all we know, there's another Mistborn or another kill role floating in those who haven't claimed so a precautionary Ocho exe doesn't really resolve that risk and still requires a Lurcher double up regardless or whatever. IDK, I am not sure of the road ahead. I dislike exeing just because and I think we should minimally try for a good flip. I am considering if that means it is worth flipping Meerkat and acknowledge I am partly blase about this since I can just eat Meerkat but would also (in a V!Meerkat world) be delaying Seeking by one cycle. But this may not matter given Flam and if we have better Flam priors due to Flam being the pivotal voter on Ig D2. So. We’ve had 5 people roleclaim lurcher, but I don’t count one because it seemed very jokingly. Axolotl, Me, and DragonFly, plus Zebra and Dingo(I don’t count that one because it was very silly and jokingly and I don’t know if it was serious) either way, we’ve had a lot of Lurcher claims, and the only reason for that to remotely be the case is if the Elims have a lot of killing power, otherwise we’re pretty much immune to their nightly kill. As such, I think they have Coinshot, namely Octo(I’ve had to revisit it) As for what happened the last pages, I have one idea. Everyone’s confused. Also, DF and Axolotl’s role claimed were D1, Dingo’s N1, and mine and Zebra’s D3. For those who want to check that out
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Indigo Weasel said: Dingo(I don’t count that one because it was very silly and jokingly and I don’t know if it was serious) Bruv Dingo just claimed Seeker with a V Zebra scan, and Meerkat claimed V!Seeker who scanned V!Zebra. However Meerkat also claimed to have forgotten an action last night so the GM gave him a free random scan and I'm not sure that roles here get this kind of RNG grace, it's SE we don't do Compulsives man. I have no idea wthapis fing anymore.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Mint Heron said: Bruv Dingo just claimed Seeker with a V Zebra scan, and Meerkat claimed V!Seeker who scanned V!Zebra. However Meerkat also claimed to have forgotten an action last night so the GM gave him a free random scan and I'm not sure that roles here get this kind of RNG grace, it's SE we don't do Compulsives man. I have no idea wthapis fing anymore. *mental screaming* that’s still four lurchers. Did anyone think to ask him why he claimed Lurcher?
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