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Posted
4 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

Bonkers. 

N1? 

N2, I did myself N1, as I was planning on doing myself forever to basically make myself immune to Elim/coinshot. But the rules were updated and I lurched you.

Posted

I’m honestly reconsidering Octo. 

11 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said:

the rules were updated

Balance with 

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doing myself forever to basically make myself immune

The elims have a coinshot. 

+ Chaos and confusion!!! 

*

*

Mauve Crocodile? 

Posted
1 hour ago, Mint Heron said:

Wtaf did i return to.

Fr bro

That escalated faster than the Empire State

36 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

The elims have a coinshot. 

Yet the fact they didn't use it makes me almost certain there's only one left

Although again, what the actual flip

Zebra could be lying as a last attempt to get village cred after watching it work on DF D1

Posted

A device let out a shrill and angry beep as Neugier’s heart stopped.

Despite the best efforts of the small but dedicated SS TYRIAN medical crew, the damage was already done. As best as anyone could tell, Neugier had been on EVA making routine repairs along the surface of the exterior hull. A duty that had kept Neugier too busy to socialize much. As best as anyone could tell, no foul play had been involved.

Just a stray piece of space debris moving at high speeds relative to the ship. Small enough that it posed no substantial threat to the TYRIAN, but large enough to rip through Neugier’s hardsuit without much difficulty. The extraterrestrial equivalent of getting struck by lightning. Similarly unlikely, too. But accidents happened sometimes.

This is to say that Neugier was very much dead, but only very recently so. Only after a flurry of activity to recover the ailing body and unsuccessfully knit it back together.

Even now, while the death was mere minutes ago, one final procedure still remained. The spiritweb could be extracted via hemalurgy, and installed in a new body. One fashioned not of flesh and blood but of steel and ettmetal.

This was a last resort, for it was not a clean process. There would be losses. Memories in particular were delicate, and didn't always survive such a transferrence. It was Neugier’s last hope.


Some Time Later

In an empty chamber, machinery hummed to life as metalminds reached optimal charge thresholds and a bootup sequence completed. Metallic fingers flexed and unflexed. Lights flickered to life in a pair of sockets, which examined the new digits meticulously.

The cyborg moved towards the exit, and the TYRIAN acknowledged its access and unbolted the door, which lead out into a fairly ordinary looking hallway. The hallway was not empty of crew, and its sensors focused on the nearest life sign.

Human,” it buzzed out. “Meatbag. Kindly cease ambulating and engage listening routines. This unit is operational. It is called CRANK. I await your orders.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said:

Yet the fact they didn't use it makes me almost certain there's only one left

 

Zebra could be lying as a last attempt to get village cred after watching it work on DF D1

No. = Scarlet Octopus Violet Axolotl 

 

No c claim = no lying 

Posted
14 minutes ago, Pearl Chameleon said:

A device let out a shrill and angry beep as Neugier’s heart stopped.

Despite the best efforts of the small but dedicated SS TYRIAN medical crew, the damage was already done. As best as anyone could tell, Neugier had been on EVA making routine repairs along the surface of the exterior hull. A duty that had kept Neugier too busy to socialize much. As best as anyone could tell, no foul play had been involved.

Just a stray piece of space debris moving at high speeds relative to the ship. Small enough that it posed no substantial threat to the TYRIAN, but large enough to rip through Neugier’s hardsuit without much difficulty. The extraterrestrial equivalent of getting struck by lightning. Similarly unlikely, too. But accidents happened sometimes.

This is to say that Neugier was very much dead, but only very recently so. Only after a flurry of activity to recover the ailing body and unsuccessfully knit it back together.

Even now, while the death was mere minutes ago, one final procedure still remained. The spiritweb could be extracted via hemalurgy, and installed in a new body. One fashioned not of flesh and blood but of steel and ettmetal.

This was a last resort, for it was not a clean process. There would be losses. Memories in particular were delicate, and didn't always survive such a transferrence. It was Neugier’s last hope.


Some Time Later

In an empty chamber, machinery hummed to life as metalminds reached optimal charge thresholds and a bootup sequence completed. Metallic fingers flexed and unflexed. Lights flickered to life in a pair of sockets, which examined the new digits meticulously.

The cyborg moved towards the exit, and the TYRIAN acknowledged its access and unbolted the door, which lead out into a fairly ordinary looking hallway. The hallway was not empty of crew, and its sensors focused on the nearest life sign.

Human,” it buzzed out. “Meatbag. Kindly cease ambulating and engage listening routines. This unit is operational. It is called CRANK. I await your orders.

OMG it's a friend for H.E.A.R.T.H

1 minute ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

No. = Scarlet Octopus Violet Axolotl 

 

No c claim = no lying 

Huh?

Posted

The problem at hand:

4 x V!MB, 4 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS

This is absolutely not correct and unacceptable

= Ocho is not actually v 

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Mint Heron was attacked by a Saboteur! They survived!

Not Axolotl, not Dragonfly, not Weasel. = Zebra = v!Zebra

@Pearl Chameleon role Lurcher, MB, or coinshot? 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

The problem at hand:

4 x V!MB, 4 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS

This is absolutely not correct and unacceptable

= Ocho is not actually v 

Not Axolotl, not Dragonfly, not Weasel. = Zebra = v!Zebra

@Pearl Chameleon role Lurcher, MB, or coinshot? 

How do you know "not Axolotl"? Axolotl told me via PM they would protect Heron

As for the first half, what makes you think Octo is the one lying and not one of the Lurchers? Octo did take out an elim, that is nearly undeniable

Posted
12 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

@Pearl Chameleon role Lurcher, MB, or coinshot? 

"That is to be my purpose in life?" CRANK beeped quizzically, tilting its head to one side. "To answer inane requests for information like a common drone?"

"Acknowledged, human. Customer service designation has been selected. This allocation is permanent. Please hold..."


"ERROR," CRANK beeped stridently. "No answer exists within the parameters of your stated question. Request not fulfilled. Meatbag, please revise your questioning skills."

"I live to serve," CRANK buzzed.

Posted
1 hour ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

The problem at hand:

4 x V!MB, 4 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS

This is absolutely not correct and unacceptable

= Ocho is not actually v 

Not Axolotl, not Dragonfly, not Weasel. = Zebra = v!Zebra

@Pearl Chameleon role Lurcher, MB, or coinshot? 

Because of similar logic, I too have come to the conclusion that Octo is an eliminator.

Ok guys I'm gonna do this, because I strongly feel like Octo is e! and the only way I can properly explain my reasoning is with this.

N1, I raided Sage Kangaroo's body. I became a Seeker, and N2, I Seeked @Sunburst Toucan. Forgive me, Toucan, but I'm gonna have to roleclaim for you. Toucan is a Loyalist Coinshot.

I believe that N1, Toucan shot Croc (Toucan, please correct me) Octo, an eliminator coinshot (not confirmed, theory), panicked and claimed coinshot after trying to shoot a v!Axolotl. Toucan thought that was strange, and voted him. However, N2, after narrowly escaping suspicion, shot a villager, intending to conver it up with an accident. I will admit, this theory does not account for Toucan N2, but I would love for toucan to chime in.

I am not entirely sure about Zebra, but I believe that Scarlet Octopus is a Saboteur, and if we dont vote him out, I will seek him. (also can a lurcher please protect me during the night? One of the main reasons I was hesitant to roleclaim was because I was scared)

Posted
2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

 (also can a lurcher please protect me during the night? One of the main reasons I was hesitant to roleclaim was because I was scared)

I live to serve! 

1 hour ago, Taupe Gecko said:

 Axolotl told me via PM 

@Violet Axolotl

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Scarlet Octopus said:

For N2?

Yes

6 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

Because of similar logic, I too have come to the conclusion that Octo is an eliminator.

Ok guys I'm gonna do this, because I strongly feel like Octo is e! and the only way I can properly explain my reasoning is with this.

N1, I raided Sage Kangaroo's body. I became a Seeker, and N2, I Seeked @Sunburst Toucan. Forgive me, Toucan, but I'm gonna have to roleclaim for you. Toucan is a Loyalist Coinshot.

I believe that N1, Toucan shot Croc (Toucan, please correct me) Octo, an eliminator coinshot (not confirmed, theory), panicked and claimed coinshot after trying to shoot a v!Axolotl. Toucan thought that was strange, and voted him. However, N2, after narrowly escaping suspicion, shot a villager, intending to conver it up with an accident. I will admit, this theory does not account for Toucan N2, but I would love for toucan to chime in.

I am not entirely sure about Zebra, but I believe that Scarlet Octopus is a Saboteur, and if we dont vote him out, I will seek him. (also can a lurcher please protect me during the night? One of the main reasons I was hesitant to roleclaim was because I was scared)

Alright what the flip Toucan if this is real why haven’t you protested yet

Guys this is getting crazy

7 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

(also can a lurcher please protect me during the night? One of the main reasons I was hesitant to roleclaim was because I was scared)

The night may not fall on us

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said:

Yes

Alright what the flip Toucan if this is real why haven’t you protested yet

Guys this is getting crazy

The night may not fall on us

It is real, Toucan did protest, but I also think they thought Octo was fishing for a counter-claim. Idk, I do think Octo is CS, just elim coinshot.

Hopefully, but I think there is 5 elims.

Very confident on my Octo theory, but I do need @Sunburst Toucan to confirm.

Just now, Scarlet Octopus said:

Axl said they protected me via PM

14 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

Because of similar logic, I too have come to the conclusion that Octo is an eliminator.

Ok guys I'm gonna do this, because I strongly feel like Octo is e! and the only way I can properly explain my reasoning is with this.

N1, I raided Sage Kangaroo's body. I became a Seeker, and N2, I Seeked @Sunburst Toucan. Forgive me, Toucan, but I'm gonna have to roleclaim for you. Toucan is a Loyalist Coinshot.

I believe that N1, Toucan shot Croc (Toucan, please correct me) Octo, an eliminator coinshot (not confirmed, theory), panicked and claimed coinshot after trying to shoot a v!Axolotl. Toucan thought that was strange, and voted him. However, N2, after narrowly escaping suspicion, shot a villager, intending to conver it up with an accident. I will admit, this theory does not account for Toucan N2, but I would love for toucan to chime in.

I am not entirely sure about Zebra, but I believe that Scarlet Octopus is a Saboteur, and if we dont vote him out, I will seek him. (also can a lurcher please protect me during the night? One of the main reasons I was hesitant to roleclaim was because I was scared)

^^^ Thoughts?

edit:

8 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

I live to serve! 

 

@Violet Axolotl

 

Yes, that was me talking about my seeking (and one of the reasons I roleclaimed, I thought I was being too obvious, and decided to let everyone be on the same field (especially because of my mounting suspicions on Octo and inability to explain without roleclaim))

Edited by Onyx Flamingo
Posted

Sorry it's been busy. I'm just gonna triage the most important things:

@Onyx Flamingo I repeat: I get it but you are only telling me that you are personally very sure of Toucan given your read of their identity. I don't know who you are, I don't know who Toucan is, you being very sure tells me nothing because people can be mistaken in their reads. I think you're Village and don't need to know who you both are but we are not at a stage of the game I can accept a raw, "trust me bro" vouch anymore. I need you to explain why you think Toucan is V, pointing to the factors that create this certainty in you.

@Plum Rhinoceros: I think it's moved past us at this point but fundamentally I think you are excluding certain votes (e.g. Ig D1) as being indicative of alignment while credencing on other votes (e.g Ig D2.) I am concerned about FUD in that I think you are moving to keep Axl in the suspect pool rather than shrinking PoE and doing it by saying "Ah but have you considered a world for which we have no evidence and no likelihood assessment for but it's possible and because it's possible, a v!read cannot be ascribed." I distrust this because I think Elim strategy at the clean-up stage is to keep PoE as wide open as possible.

@Whoever:

The only thing I can add to the current Lurcher debate is that I agree that 4 Lurchers and potentially up to four V!MB is an intrinsically weird distro. I'm not confident in saying where the issue is but I struggle in seeing 4 V!L being considered ok on the OG ruleset even with E!CS. I'm wary of a WBG on Zebra's part tbh.

Ocho PMed me last night saying to  exe Axl if they died. I don't know if this means Ocho and Axl had initially arranged for Axl to Lurch Ocho since I did not reach out to Axl at all. There's a world Axl said they'd protect Ocho and Ocho decides U can thus be killed ig. 

I can't contribute to @Taupe Gecko or @Violet Axolotl or @Quartz Zebra here because I probably should be dead and don't know what went down.

I just... don't super feel like Ocho's play is very E!CS? IDK man I just feel like they've not been very keen to try to pocket the Lurchers or reach out to them. I feel like my PM asking Ocho to consided PMing DF or Axl just had Ocho shrugging and going "well I hope they protect me" without having ever said they reached out to DF/Axl. You could say they distrusted me but I think it's harder for Elims to remember to fake that kind of paranoia when they're trying to pocket. At the same time I struggle to understand a CS so scared of being exed (proving themselves etc) go "yo if the Elims kill me they kill me ig."

I also think Rhino raises a fair question wrt how the Lurchers all reacted to Dingo/

- you know what wtaf wtf did I just see. Guys what. Wtf.

EDIT:

I AM COMING BACK WHEN YOU MFERS STOP CLAIMING WTF

I MEAN OK I GEDDIT TY FLAM THIS MAKES SENSE BUT ALSO WTF GUYS I CANNOT EVEN

Posted
2 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

Sorry it's been busy. I'm just gonna triage the most important things:

@Onyx Flamingo I repeat: I get it but you are only telling me that you are personally very sure of Toucan given your read of their identity. I don't know who you are, I don't know who Toucan is, you being very sure tells me nothing because people can be mistaken in their reads. I think you're Village and don't need to know who you both are but we are not at a stage of the game I can accept a raw, "trust me bro" vouch anymore. I need you to explain why you think Toucan is V, pointing to the factors that create this certainty in you.

@Plum Rhinoceros: I think it's moved past us at this point but fundamentally I think you are excluding certain votes (e.g. Ig D1) as being indicative of alignment while credencing on other votes (e.g Ig D2.) I am concerned about FUD in that I think you are moving to keep Axl in the suspect pool rather than shrinking PoE and doing it by saying "Ah but have you considered a world for which we have no evidence and no likelihood assessment for but it's possible and because it's possible, a v!read cannot be ascribed." I distrust this because I think Elim strategy at the clean-up stage is to keep PoE as wide open as possible.

@Whoever:

The only thing I can add to the current Lurcher debate is that I agree that 4 Lurchers and potentially up to four V!MB is an intrinsically weird distro. I'm not confident in saying where the issue is but I struggle in seeing 4 V!L being considered ok on the OG ruleset even with E!CS. I'm wary of a WBG on Zebra's part tbh.

Ocho PMed me last night saying to  exe Axl if they died. I don't know if this means Ocho and Axl had initially arranged for Axl to Lurch Ocho since I did not reach out to Axl at all. There's a world Axl said they'd protect Ocho and Ocho decides U can thus be killed ig. 

I can't contribute to @Taupe Gecko or @Violet Axolotl or @Quartz Zebra here because I probably should be dead and don't know what went down.

I just... don't super feel like Ocho's play is very E!CS? IDK man I just feel like they've not been very keen to try to pocket the Lurchers or reach out to them. I feel like my PM asking Ocho to consided PMing DF or Axl just had Ocho shrugging and going "well I hope they protect me" without having ever said they reached out to DF/Axl. You could say they distrusted me but I think it's harder for Elims to remember to fake that kind of paranoia when they're trying to pocket. At the same time I struggle to understand a CS so scared of being exed (proving themselves etc) go "yo if the Elims kill me they kill me ig."

I also think Rhino raises a fair question wrt how the Lurchers all reacted to Dingo/

- you know what wtaf wtf did I just see. Guys what. Wtf.

ok you missed a lot

TL;DR I lied about knowing Toucan (trying to cover up seeker) decided it was too sus and wasn't working well, claimed Seeker, Toucan is Loyalist CS, I think Octo is elim.

17 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

Because of similar logic, I too have come to the conclusion that Octo is an eliminator.

Ok guys I'm gonna do this, because I strongly feel like Octo is e! and the only way I can properly explain my reasoning is with this.

N1, I raided Sage Kangaroo's body. I became a Seeker, and N2, I Seeked @Sunburst Toucan. Forgive me, Toucan, but I'm gonna have to roleclaim for you. Toucan is a Loyalist Coinshot.

I believe that N1, Toucan shot Croc (Toucan, please correct me) Octo, an eliminator coinshot (not confirmed, theory), panicked and claimed coinshot after trying to shoot a v!Axolotl. Toucan thought that was strange, and voted him. However, N2, after narrowly escaping suspicion, shot a villager, intending to conver it up with an accident. I will admit, this theory does not account for Toucan N2, but I would love for toucan to chime in.

I am not entirely sure about Zebra, but I believe that Scarlet Octopus is a Saboteur, and if we dont vote him out, I will seek him. (also can a lurcher please protect me during the night? One of the main reasons I was hesitant to roleclaim was because I was scared)

 

Posted
Just now, Oxblood Beagle said:

What did I return to...

HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS BEAGLE

Edit:

2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

ok you missed a lot

TL;DR I lied about knowing Toucan (trying to cover up seeker) decided it was too sus and wasn't working well, claimed Seeker, Toucan is Loyalist CS, I think Octo is elim.

 

Yeah I realised sorry, even cut off my post because of it.

I think my one question is: if Toucan actually shot Croc, why did Toucan not shoot Ocho last Night? Because we didn't see an attack write-up at all and Toucan would then know Ocho was lying.

I think there's a pragmatic case for voting Ocho at this point if we still agree you're V because protected targets can still die to overspill (NK + shot)

Posted (edited)
On 1/11/2026 at 2:43 AM, Onyx Flamingo said:

 

Spoiler

V!read Toucan - I know there is a lot of suspicion on them, but I am sure that they are v

 

On 1/11/2026 at 7:00 AM, Onyx Flamingo said:

Why wouldn't I know who Toucan is if I v!read them?

@Onyx Flamingo

Omg I thought others had caught on to your softclaim because you had said that Toucan is v with full certainty that I figured you must have been the Kandra turned Seeker. And in a different post, you asked it like, why wouldn't I know (what Toucan's role is) if (I checked them)?

@Indigo Weasel 
Can I ask what made you decide to claim? From earlier actions, I had thought you were opposed to people claiming roles

5 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS BEAGLE

Feels like things suddenly went into overdrive LOL

Edited by Oxblood Beagle
Posted
5 hours ago, Quartz Zebra said:

You call me "active but contributing little"? That’s 'cause I’m busy making sure the Lurcher-lines don't cross and blow us all to the Spiritual Realm! And also, what do you mean Echo? I'm the darned lurcher who saved Zense!

Hold up, when did you claim lurcher??? So there are 3 lurchers????

Also, sorry, that's a plain lie. lurched heron. @Scarlet Octopus, I'm sorry, to be honest I lied to you. I wasn't sure about you, but I did feel that heron was villager. I implied in some PMs that I was lurching you to keep attention off you, then lurched heron instead.

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said:

Omg I thought others had caught on to your softclaim

I considered it but I just wanted to make sure it was not Flam being weird about Toucan 😭

Ocho????

Two V!CS?????

Like. Can that distro work? I know it's a Jo and TUM-

AAAAAAAAAAA

OH MY GOD WHY 😭😭😭😭😭

FML

I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CAFFEINE FOR THIS OR SAN OMGWTFBBQ

Edit:

@Violet Axolotl

...Weasel claimed Lurcher too bruv.

Four Lurcher claims, Flam claimed kandra turned Seeker who scanned Toucan as a V!CS.

Welcome to hell.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS BEAGLE

Edit:

Yeah I realised sorry, even cut off my post because of it.

I think my one question is: if Toucan actually shot Croc, why did Toucan not shoot Ocho last Night? Because we didn't see an attack write-up at all and Toucan would then know Ocho was lying.

I think there's a pragmatic case for voting Ocho at this point if we still agree you're V because protected targets can still die to overspill (NK + shot)

My theory has flaws, but Toucan did say

On 1/9/2026 at 10:51 PM, Sunburst Toucan said:

Okay, the transparency of this has convinced me that Octopus is probably an actual village Coinshot. I would like to retract my earlier suspicions, although I still think claiming Coinshot was a strange move. 

N2. They might have just assumed they both shot the same person. Still need Toucan input, though.

4 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said:

@Onyx Flamingo

Omg I thought others had caught on to your softclaim because you had said that Toucan is v with full certainty that I figured you must have been the Kandra turned Seeker. And in a different post, you asked it like, why wouldn't I know (what Toucan's role is) if (I checked them)?

@Indigo Weasel 
Can I ask what made you decide to claim? From earlier actions, I had thought you were opposed to people claiming roles

Feels like things suddenly went into overdrive LOL

Yeah thats why I full roleclaimed because I thought that maybe the eliminators would catch it but not the village and I wished to share more info.

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