Lord Architect Nightblood, at the Heralds' service?

[Ripheus23]

I missed a lot on my first W&T read-through. So, I went past it today, didn't jot down the pg. number or what, but there was a passage where Nightblood has been chattin' with the Honorblades and they were talkin' some about building a city by their power. So, my assumption is that the Honorblades were used to create Urithiru, maybe they even did it on a decision of the swords' own souls.

Could Nightblood be trained to make a tower, too? I'm obsessed with the idea of an intricate sequence of Connective steps that would have to be taken, to reignite the highstorm, and somethin' to do with energy flows traced in/by magic Rosharan cities would be a good bet on an important component of such a "machine."

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

3 hours ago, Ripheus23 said:

I missed a lot on my first W&T read-through. So, I went past it today, didn't jot down the pg. number or what, but there was a passage where Nightblood has been chattin' with the Honorblades and they were talkin' some about building a city by their power. So, my assumption is that the Honorblades were used to create Urithiru, maybe they even did it on a decision of the swords' own souls.

Could Nightblood be trained to make a tower, too? I'm obsessed with the idea of an intricate sequence of Connective steps that would have to be taken, to reignite the highstorm, and somethin' to do with energy flows traced in/by magic Rosharan cities would be a good bet on an important component of such a "machine."

I'm pretty sure that they were simply referring to the use of Surges to create the Tower, so if that is the case, then yes, Nightblood could probably do it.

Key point: probably.

We still don't know if Nightblood's command lets it create, not just destroy. Also, there are more than one Honorblade (citation needed), but there's one Nightblood. 

I think that the Heralds used the Honorblades to create Urithiru, but if they didn't, that would make a Nightblood Urithiru impossible, because Nightblood is not capable of not destroying Investiture. (Yes, WaT, but then it wasn't taking in Investiture, it was refusing to do so). Someone wielding Nightblood could maybe do it, but it would take a LOT  of Stormlight, and even Dalinar probably wouldn't be able to provide enough. (It took Nightblood maybe 30 seconds to kill a SHARD, so it clearly can take in a lot of Investiture).

I hope someone more knowledgeable pipes in, but that's my conclusion: Maybe, except everything would start being eaten and then the stone would stop being stone.

[Nitpicking]

Night blood killed a Vessel. It didn't even harm the Shard.

[Clarkmon22 He/Him]

A couple things.

On 11/28/2025 at 9:41 PM, Ookla the Hoppy said:

Also, there are more than one Honorblade (citation needed), but there's one Nightblood. 

We do know that vivienna has a very similar sword that may be a more refined version of Nightblood

On 11/28/2025 at 9:41 PM, Ookla the Hoppy said:

Someone wielding Nightblood could maybe do it, but it would take a LOT  of Stormlight, and even Dalinar probably wouldn't be able to provide enough. (It took Nightblood maybe 30 seconds to kill a SHARD, so it clearly can take in a lot of Investiture).

When I read the chapters with nightblood at the end of WaT, I got the impression that the Surges could be used without stormlight as fuel, as long as nightblood held back their thirst.

On 11/28/2025 at 9:41 PM, Ookla the Hoppy said:

(It took Nightblood maybe 30 seconds to kill a SHARD, so it clearly can take in a lot of Investiture).

nitpicking got there first, but nightblood was satiated only upon the (relatively) minimal investiture found within the vessel (Rayse), not Odium it's self. 

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

On 11/29/2025 at 11:29 AM, Nitpicking said:

Night blood killed a Vessel. It didn't even harm the Shard.

I meant the holder of the Shard, not the Shard itself. 

7 hours ago, Ookla the Nine-Fingered said:

We do know that vivienna has a very similar sword that may be a more refined version of Nightblood

That depends on what you mean by "more refined." We know Nightblood would win in a fight, so that's one measure. Also, we don't know what that sword's Command was, so it could very well be less suited for creation than Nightblood (though I can't imagine very many Commands that would result in that).

[nehalem]

On 12/1/2025 at 10:19 AM, Ookla the Nine-Fingered said:

A couple things.

We do know that vivienna has a very similar sword that may be a more refined version of Nightblood

When I read the chapters with nightblood at the end of WaT, I got the impression that the Surges could be used without stormlight as fuel, as long as nightblood held back their thirst.

nitpicking got there first, but nightblood was satiated only upon the (relatively) minimal investiture found within the vessel (Rayse), not Odium it's self. 

I am thinking that by "more refined" it also means less powerful.

I don't think you would want more nightblood-level shardblades floating around