Full Cosmere Restarted RP [SIGNUPS][COSMERE SPOILERS TO WaT]

[ChickenBonanza]

3 minutes ago, Argenti said:

It seems if the shards ae even remotely opposite, they'll polarize. I'm looking at you, Scadrial. Oaths and Freedom are pretty well opposed. 

Yet, there is also an element of their Vessels own personal oppositions which accelerated this. An Honor and Autonomy aware of the mismatch could minimize polarization through intentional cooperation.

(A funny thought, all Honor’s Vessel has to do to ensure the Shard cooperates is say ‘I swear I will _____’ and he’s golden. Just be proactive about it. Make a big, cohesive contract.)

Edited July 22, 2025 by ChickenBonanza

[Argenti he/him]

2 minutes ago, ChickenBonanza said:

Yet, there is also an element of their Vessels own personal oppositions which accelerated this. An Honor and Autonomy aware of the mismatch could minimize polarization through intentional cooperation.

(A funny thought, all Honor’s Vessel has to do to ensure the Shard cooperates is say ‘I swear I will _____’ and he’s golden. Just be proactive about it. Make a big, cohesive contract.)

Indeed. That's why Honor and Cultivation didn't kill each other for a few thousand years.

[ChickenBonanza]

8 minutes ago, Argenti said:

Indeed. That's why Honor and Cultivation didn't kill each other for a few thousand years.

A question, do you think this polarization phenomenon is so prevalent as to invariably provoke Shards to direct conflict with another? Tanavast and Koravellium had every intention of working with the other wholeheartedly. Assuming no outside intervention, would their Shards always refuse the other?

Shardic extremism is the biggest hurdle, right? Who is to say they do not work to align their intents towards to better match the other. Honor becomes something like fulfilling the obligations of a god, which could include working for the progressive betterment of your people, or something.

Edited July 22, 2025 by ChickenBonanza
Shardic extremism

[Argenti he/him]

2 minutes ago, ChickenBonanza said:

A question, do you think this polarization phenomenon is so prevalent as to invariably provoke Shards to direct conflict with another? Tanavast and Koravellium had every intention of working with the other wholeheartedly. Assuming no outside intervention, would their Shards always refuse the other?

Honestly, I do think so. I don't think every shard would do it, but most shards would. I don't think, say Autonomy and Valor would have many issues, but when their intents are either opposed (Ruin vs Preservation) or overlap (Say, Invention vs Virtuosity) the shards will polarize create issues.

[al_lan_mandragoran]

@Argenti, I'm not sure why you're thinking of Shard mixing. It's not gonna happen. Especially not Virtuosity + Honour.

@CoderDrag0n8, I'm not sure how you're going to get my investiture. It's all locked up securely...

[Argenti he/him]

1 hour ago, al_lan_mandragoran said:

@Argenti, I'm not sure why you're thinking of Shard mixing. It's not gonna happen. Especially not Virtuosity + Honour.

@CoderDrag0n8, I'm not sure how you're going to get my investiture. It's all locked up securely...

I was told Autonomy had decided to not kill the seeds. 

 

[SpartanBrigade He/Him]

16 hours ago, Argenti said:

I was told Autonomy had decided to not kill the seeds. 

 

Yeah we’re letting them land

Right @al_lan_mandragoran

Right?

[al_lan_mandragoran]

Well, we're capturing them before they land. Or at least that's what I thought. @SpartanBrigade

[SpartanBrigade He/Him]

5 minutes ago, al_lan_mandragoran said:

Well, we're capturing them before they land. Or at least that's what I thought. @SpartanBrigade

We were but if they land all they’d do is like grow a jungle

We can convince them to defect and help us

If we capture them we’d make enemies for no real reason

[Argenti he/him]

5 hours ago, al_lan_mandragoran said:

Well, we're capturing them before they land. Or at least that's what I thought. @SpartanBrigade

5 hours ago, SpartanBrigade said:

We were but if they land all they’d do is like grow a jungle

We can convince them to defect and help us

If we capture them we’d make enemies for no real reason

Ah. Capture them. Yes. 

Eh honor is a purists, no?

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

What’s to stop us from throwing the black hole into the SR?

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

5 minutes ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

What’s to stop us from throwing the black hole into the SR?

The 3 realms are one around the singularity.

Also you have to get close to it without being eaten.

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

14 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

The 3 realms are one around the singularity.

Also you have to get close to it without being eaten.

Sooo… deal with it in the SR alone. No danger to me there. Pull it there, and disperse the matter.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

8 minutes ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Sooo… deal with it in the SR alone. No danger to me there. Pull it there, and disperse the matter.

But the SR does not exist around the black hole.

The Realms are one in what's left of the Taldain System.

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

1 minute ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

But the SR does not exist around the black hole.

The Realms are one in what's left of the Taldain System.

Hhhhmmm… hhhmmmmmmmmm…

The Realms… interesting.

The singularity, does it follow any pattern?

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

1 minute ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Hhhhmmm… hhhmmmmmmmmm…

The Realms… interesting.

The singularity, does it follow any pattern?

Like a normal black hole's singularity, 'cept it's Invested.

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

6 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Like a normal black hole's singularity, 'cept it's Invested.

Mmmmhhhhh…

I SUMMON A POWERFUL WIND…

nah, but I wonder what antimatter would do with it.

I mean, sure, the energy would just get stuck again, but antimatter dismantles the very structure of it, ya know? So where protons are organized quarks n stuff, this will just be a sort of soup.

It’s worth noting that this is how the universe was shortly after the Big Bang…

It’s also worth mentioning that the energy from the reaction would manifest as energy. And therefore a correctly timed destructive interference may have import here.

Edited July 27, 2025 by SpiritOfWrath

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 minutes ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Mmmmhhhhh…

I SUMMON A POWERFUL WIND…

nah, but I wonder what antimatter would do with it.

I mean, sure, the energy would just get stuck again, but antimatter dismantles the very structure of it, ya know? So where protons are organized quarks n stuff, this will just be a sort of soup.

It’s worth noting that this is how the universe was shortly after the Big Bang…

It’s also worth mentioning that the energy from the reaction would manifest as energy. And therefore a correctly timed destructive interference may have import here.

Antimatter would do nothing; it would be converted to energy. The charge of matter is irrelevant in the singularity.

But anti-Investiture can work, as it exists outside the singularity.

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

1 minute ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Antimatter would do nothing; it would be converted to energy. The charge of matter is irrelevant in the singularity.

But anti-Investiture can work, as it exists outside the singularity.

Is it irrelevant? Cuz a singularity filled with quantum soup sounds a whole lot like the conditions with which the Big Bang was set off.

Energy would simply be more mass content, I guess. Photons and such.

Anti-Investiture can work… how? Cuz it would just become energy anyways

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

1 minute ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Is it irrelevant? Cuz a singularity filled with quantum soup sounds a whole lot like the conditions with which the Big Bang was set off.

Energy would simply be more mass content, I guess. Photons and such.

Anti-Investiture can work… how? Cuz it would just become energy anyways

No, it's not like the early universe because it's a singularity, a point. 

It sucks up mass like a normal black hole does and turns it into energy, but doesn't do the same for Investiture. The Investiture resides in the area between the event horizon and the singularity. If it sucked up Investiture like it does matter, then the initial Investiture given by Virtuosity would be gone too and it would lose sentience. So, its Investiture retains charge, but its matter does not. Anti-matter would only make it grow. 

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

Just now, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

No, it's not like the early universe because it's a singularity, a point. 

It sucks up mass like a normal black hole does and turns it into energy, but doesn't do the same for Investiture. The Investiture resides in the area between the event horizon and the singularity. If it sucked up Investiture like it does matter, then the initial Investiture given by Virtuosity would be gone too and it would lose sentience. So, its Investiture retains charge, but its matter does not. Anti-matter would only make it grow. 

…yes, the Big Bang was a single point as well.

Sooo… how does it pose danger to me?

Im tempted to let it bulldoze the cosmere

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

Just now, SpiritOfWrath said:

…yes, the Big Bang was a single point as well.

Sooo… how does it pose danger to me?

Im tempted to let it bulldoze the cosmere

It can steal your Investiture.

And eat Nerkalis.

[Argenti he/him]

5 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

No, it's not like the early universe because it's a singularity, a point. 

It sucks up mass like a normal black hole does and turns it into energy, but doesn't do the same for Investiture. The Investiture resides in the area between the event horizon and the singularity. If it sucked up Investiture like it does matter, then the initial Investiture given by Virtuosity would be gone too and it would lose sentience. So, its Investiture retains charge, but its matter does not. Anti-matter would only make it grow. 

Assuming, of course, that the investiture that it consumes doesn't add to its "soul" and it assembles enough varied investiture, the Anti-Investiture doesn't do much.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Argenti said:

Assuming, of course, that the investiture that it consumes doesn't add to its "soul" and it assembles enough varied investiture, the Anti-Investiture doesn't do much.

But all Investiture adds to its soul. Its soul is within the event horizon. 

And right now, its Investiture is all keyed to Virtuosity.

[Argenti he/him]

2 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

But all Investiture adds to its soul. Its soul is within the event horizon. 

And right now, its Investiture is all keyed to Virtuosity.

Unless it eats some valor...