Trusk'our he/him Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 So, it's possible for Allomantic nicrosil and therefore presumably Allomantic duralumin to affect Feruchemy as long as it's kinetic. Spoiler https://wob.coppermind.net/events/479-dragonsteel-mini-con-2021/#e15240 Questioner Nicrosil and chromium, do those have any interaction with people using Feruchemy, or other Investiture in general? Leechers or Nicrobursts. Brandon Sanderson Could you use those on Feruchemists? You should be able to, yes. Questioner Would that only work while they're tapping it? Brandon Sanderson If it's active Investiture, probably yes. You'd probably need it to be kinetic Investiture in order for them to do anything about it. And of course, storing Feruchemical attributes makes them kinetic, as Dumad can sense Wax reducing his weight in TLM. I'm guessing that tapping attributes while burning duralumin will just make you tap them all at once (it's also been proposed to reduce the compression loss of such high tapping). But, what if you try burning duralumin when storing? If your entire attribute becomes targetable by duralumin, you might just die. Brass would freeze you, pewter would make you so frail your bones snap, and gold might just make you fall apart. Or, perhaps if only the only the small portion of the Spiritweb being actively siphoned off is considered valid for Allomantic duralumin, it might be slightly safer. If the act of storing an attribute is akin to Hemalurgy at all, the added force might actually rip off a portion of the Spiritweb associated with their Feruchemy. Maybe making something like a Hemalurgic spike, but no Ruin involved? If the storing attributes works where the siphoning of Investiture from your Spiritweb pulls more from the surrounding SR, making it a kind of conduit, maybe burning duralumin while storing an attribute would make the process faster? Kind of like Compounding, but through a different method and being harder on the Twinborn. Lots of weird interactions, potentially. 3
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 (edited) Just had a thought about the Enhancement Metals, and their respective 'Pulls' and 'Pushes' on the use of Investiture. Here's a thought, Duralumin works by using up all the metals in one go for one big allomantic burst of power, and how it does this is that it's forcibly 'pulling' all that potential Investiture from the metals in from the Spiritual Realm in one go, if you think about it it's almost like an Investiture vacuum, by 'pulling' in potential Investiture into the Allomancers body through whatever applicable 'route' is available, be it metals, metalminds, etc. But it's always about 'pulling' in, not 'pushing' out, that's more aluminum's thing. I'm rambling and probably not making total sense but the thought did strike me right after I read this. But here's how I think the Enhancement Metals actually work. -Aluminum ejects Investiture, or potential Investiture catalysts like metals, out of the user's body, including itself, and dups it into the Spiritual Realm. -Duralumin inhales Investiture into the user's body all at once, like a vacuum. -Chromium ejects Investiture out of the body of others -Nicrosil causes the bodies of other's to inhale Investiture. Does it make sense? To me it does. Is it right? Maybe not. Am I crazy? Absolutely. Edit: Forgot to make my point, and that's with this dubious logic, that would make it impossible for Duralumin to affect the Feruchemist storing process, as that's about pushing Investiture out of the body into something else, while Duralumin is all about pulling Investiture in. Filling a metalmind means that the 'flow' of Investiture is not applicable to duralumin. Edited May 5, 2025 by JustQuestin2004
Trusk'our he/him Posted May 5, 2025 Author Posted May 5, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, JustQuestin2004 said: Just had a thought about the Enhancement Metals, and their respective 'Pulls' and 'Pushes' on the use of Investiture. Here's a thought, Duralumin works by using up all the metals in one go for one big allomantic burst of power, and how it does this is that it's forcibly 'pulling' all that potential Investiture from the metals in from the Spiritual Realm in one go, if you think about it it's almost like an Investiture vacuum, by 'pulling' in potential Investiture into the Allomancers body through whatever applicable 'route' is available, be it metals, metalminds, etc. But it's always about 'pulling' in, not 'pushing' out, that's more aluminum's thing. I'm rambling and probably not making total sense but the thought did strike me right after I read this. But here's how I think the Enhancement Metals actually work. -Aluminum ejects Investiture, or potential Investiture catalysts like metals, out of the user's body, including itself, and dups it into the Spiritual Realm. -Duralumin inhales Investiture into the user's body all at once, like a vacuum. -Chromium ejects Investiture out of the body of others -Nicrosil causes the bodies of other's to inhale Investiture. Does it make sense? To me it does. Is it right? Maybe not. Am I crazy? Absolutely. Yes, you are sadly insane. But yeah, that reasoning makes good sense. 3 hours ago, JustQuestin2004 said: Edit: Forgot to make my point, and that's with this dubious logic, that would make it impossible for Duralumin to affect the Feruchemist storing process, as that's about pushing Investiture out of the body into something else, while Duralumin is all about pulling Investiture in. Filling a metalmind means that the 'flow' of Investiture is not applicable to duralumin. Eh, I mean, it's still affecting kinetic Investiture, even if it's not coming from a metal. I don't know if I'd completely discount one's own Spiritweb as long as you're currently drawing from it. I'm not at all confident in my suggestions though, as we haven't seen Feruchemy affected by duralumin or nicrosil Allomancy yet. More I was just musing on hypotheticals for a Twinborn with an interesting combination of powers. Edited May 5, 2025 by Trusk'our
JustQuestin2004 he/him Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Trusk'our said: Yes, you are sadly insane. But yeah, that reasoning makes good sense. Eh, I mean, it's still affecting kinetic Investiture, even if it's not coming from a metal. I don't know if I'd completely discount one's own Spiritweb as long as you're currently drawing from it. I'm not at all confident in my suggestions though, as we haven't seen Feruchemy affected by duralumin or nicrosil Allomancy yet. More I was just musing on hypotheticals for a Twinborn with an interesting combination of powers. Nothing's confirmed (besides my crippling insanity), so it easily could go either way. Good thing that Era 3's protagonist is meant to be a Nicroburst. And yeah, I'd love it too if Duralumin Twinborn had some tricks of their own and aren't just "Ferring with a little extra", besides Duralumin Compounders.
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