Which Pewter twinborn would you like to be?

[Entr0pic He/him]

so, i tried to make a poll including all the twinborn options, but that was not possible. So, i decided to split it up into serval different polls (if that’s allowed. I don’t think it’s violating any rules, but still). This is the pewter one, and I’ll put up the polls for the others shortly if you wanna check them out. Also, if you have any ideas for names of a combo, please share. 

Edited March 11, 2025 by Entr0pic
for some reason i wrote ‘compounder’ instead of ‘twinborn’.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

I would choose pewter-pewter because then I could be like, HULK SMASH with my huge muscles.

[Entr0pic He/him]

2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

I would choose pewter-pewter because then I could be like, HULK SMASH with my huge muscles.

If i recall correctly, you can rip your skin like a koloss using pewter compounding, which sounds pretty painful if you ask me, even if you’re burning A-pewter.

[DoctaDajman]

Im gonna go with pewter + steel.  

There is a really neat interaction where F steel increases burn rate. A pewter is so beneficial as it is but if you could super flare it through tapping some physical speed then you could basically have a titratable duralumin boost for pewter.  

Imagine you see another car about to rear end you... tap a bunch of steel and super flare your pewter to increase your durability and toughness as you brace for impact. 

You need to lift that car off of a person? Tap a bunch of speed and super flare your pewter to get the most strength increase as possible in the shortest amount of time. 

1 minute ago, Entr0pic said:

If i recall correctly, you can rip your skin like a koloss using pewter compounding, which sounds pretty painful if you ask me, even if you’re burning A-pewter.

Yes but the benefits to Pewter compounding is that you can store the allomantic strength portion as well. It is hard to do but once figured out you could end up with compounding super man levels of strength with no muscle changes at all. 

[Quantus he/him]

27 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said:

Im gonna go with pewter + steel.  

There is a really neat interaction where F steel increases burn rate. A pewter is so beneficial as it is but if you could super flare it through tapping some physical speed then you could basically have a titratable duralumin boost for pewter.  

Imagine you see another car about to rear end you... tap a bunch of steel and super flare your pewter to increase your durability and toughness as you brace for impact. 

You need to lift that car off of a person? Tap a bunch of speed and super flare your pewter to get the most strength increase as possible in the shortest amount of time. 

Yes but the benefits to Pewter compounding is that you can store the allomantic strength portion as well. It is hard to do but once figured out you could end up with compounding super man levels of strength with no muscle changes at all. 

Yeah, Pewter Steel for Speed that's backed by supernatural strength to game the velocity/momentum math, or else Pewter/Iron to game the Mass/weight calculations to let you leverage that strength to it's fullest and beyond.  

[Duxredux he/him]

Long term? No idea. I can think of some potent combinations though. 

Take Pewterarm/Skimmer. Usually when a Ferring stores weight, they become weaker as they become lighter. Pewter would greatly offset this, though I don't know to the extent. No idea if we're talking "leap tall buildings in a single bound". A Pewterarm using Parkour with reduced weight and dropping punches or kicks with sudden bursts of weight could be more devastating than most builds.  I'm not sure who I would put my money on between this and double Pewter when you can jump on someone with the weight of a building concentrated into a single foot.

A-Pewter and F-Gold would also be an incredibly potent combination as they would be almost impossible to bring down. A slow Pewterburn should offset a lot of the weakness and unpleasantness of active storage so I would expect typically fuller Goldminds than other Bloodmakers. Since A-Pewter reinforces the body, they will take less damage that requires healing in the first place. Some of Vin's stunts of shattering weapons swung at her by flaring her Pewter at the right moment would be far less costly. The con is it would be very dangerous to get complacent about getting hit.

Edited March 11, 2025 by Duxredux

[DoctaDajman]

44 minutes ago, Duxredux said:

Long term? No idea. I can think of some potent combinations though. 

Take Pewterarm/Skimmer. Usually when a Ferring stores weight, they become weaker as they become lighter. Pewter would greatly offset this, though I don't know to the extent. No idea if we're talking "leap tall buildings in a single bound". A Pewterarm using Parkour with reduced weight and dropping punches or kicks with sudden bursts of weight could be more devastating than most builds.  I'm not sure who I would put my money on between this and double Pewter when you can jump on someone with the weight of a building concentrated into a single foot.

A-Pewter and F-Gold would also be an incredibly potent combination as they would be almost impossible to bring down. A slow Pewterburn should offset a lot of the weakness and unpleasantness of active storage so I would expect typically fuller Goldminds than other Bloodmakers. Since A-Pewter reinforces the body, they will take less damage that requires healing in the first place. Some of Vin's stunts of shattering weapons swung at her by flaring her Pewter at the right moment would be far less costly. The con is it would be very dangerous to get complacent about getting hit.

Totally agree. I think the ideal supersoldier build is honestly F gold / steel / iron paired with A pewter. 

In a world of cherry picking abilities I think a medallion with these 3 and a natural born pewter arm is not outside of the realm of possibility and would prove to make some of the most terrifying fight scenes we have seen.  

It answers to nearly everything, including build in slow fall and healing the Spiritual self. 

I think it would allow a person to easily pull off the feats we saw of Bleeder thanks to the pewter augmenting the downsides tapping Speed. It would, as you said, allow a person tapping iron to use it more effectively... and gold is just gold... every build benefits from self healing. 

I already picture a pewter iron twinborn as John Carter from Mars. Personally naming it the acrobat... pair that with bonus speed which only boosts the momentum to play with. 

A person tapping their weight as well as tapping Speed and burning pewter enough to push them each to their limit before the pewter stops being able to make up the difference, taking a running start and then jumping before storing all of that weight (without storing so much that air resistance slows them down) could likely clear buildings in a single bound thanks to conservation of momentum. 

I imagine a user of this combo could become nearly as mobile as Vin with her horseshoe trick. Give them a wingsuit and let the games begin.  

The real Red Bull build. 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Do you think you could store pewter dragging in F-steel? Like A-pewter enhances a lot of things that you could potentially store in a metalmind. So you could just store pewter dragging in a steel metalmind and that would be insane.

[Quantus he/him]

Can we talk for a moment about the possibilities (if any) of Twin Pewter?  

This WOB implies that Pewter could actually be activating a Mind-Ove-Matter state with potential for larger changes akin to Returned.  And in general Feruchemy seems to be developing where metals have more and more variety of use and application than Era1 realized, as an overall trend (storing Pain in Tin, pretty much all the spiritual metals, etc). 

So Im wondering if there are any benefits to using them together, either in traditional Compounding to get the Feruchemical version of Strength, or some more specific benefit to selective storing the way A-tin and F-Tin work together well.  Or Both, if you can use the A-Pewter's Mind-over-matter state to modify more specific/focused physical Changes.  So for example, I wonder if F-Pewter could target just Height, or just Physical Endurance, and then store that alone in a Pewtermind (at which point you could Compound it for more if you wanted).   

 

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1. On a scale of 1 to 10, how similar are the processes of Command-Breaking a Lifeless and Unmaking?

2. Is there more going on behind the scenes when an Allomancer burns pewter? I suspect that the process triggers a "mind over matter" state, where the user's desires are made manifest, albeit in a limited way. If so, can a pewter burner alter their Physical appearance, similar to a Returned (provided they knew they could and had access to enough pewter)?

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1. 7 they are similar

2a. That is a valid theory. On the right track. 

2b. Possible in theory

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[Entr0pic He/him]

12 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Can we talk for a moment about the possibilities (if any) of Twin Pewter?  

This WOB implies that Pewter could actually be activating a Mind-Ove-Matter state with potential for larger changes akin to Returned.  And in general Feruchemy seems to be developing where metals have more and more variety of use and application than Era1 realized, as an overall trend (storing Pain in Tin, pretty much all the spiritual metals, etc). 

So Im wondering if there are any benefits to using them together, either in traditional Compounding to get the Feruchemical version of Strength, or some more specific benefit to selective storing the way A-tin and F-Tin work together well.  Or Both, if you can use the A-Pewter's Mind-over-matter state to modify more specific/focused physical Changes.  So for example, I wonder if F-Pewter could target just Height, or just Physical Endurance, and then store that alone in a Pewtermind (at which point you could Compound it for more if you wanted).   

 

 

 

 

I could imagine that being the double pewter resonance. And i do think you get a resonance from compounding. I always assumed mile’s pain ignorance was his double gold resonance. 

Edited March 11, 2025 by Entr0pic

[Quantus he/him]

10 minutes ago, Entr0pic said:

I could imagine that being the double pewter resonance. And i do think you get a resonance from compounding. I always assumed mile’s pain ignorance was his double gold resonance. 

My understanding of Miles Pain issue was that it was Savantism from overusing Gold at full allomantic levels. But Savantism has and/or is likely to be retconned per WOB, so it's a bit of a moving target to draw the line between the two. 

I was referring to how they've more recently learned to store their Sense of Pain in tinmind to suppress their pain response.  If eventually can similarly store specific physical Traits in a Pewtermind, rather than just physical bulk the way Sazed did it, they might be able to start playing with storing and manipulating much more targeted traits (both natural ones and things A-Pewter grants).

 

 

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Questioner

There are Allomantic savants, are there Feruchemical savants?

Brandon Sanderson

Much harder to do. My feeling on Feruchemical savants was because it was your own power in the first place, you can't steep in it so much in the way. But, if you can get someone else's power or if you are fueling your Feruchemy another way, you would become one. So, the Lord Ruler is a good example.

Questioner

Was Miles a...

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah. Miles would be the same sort of thing.

Questioner

Is that why he didn't die as quickly in the execution?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes.

So yeah. Normally no but if you can Compound you become... basically that is how I am explaining part of the Compounding abilities. 

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