Debates

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

1 hour ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

No.

Edit: No debate needed.

Edit #2: That's like debating if "who am I talking to" is correct or "to whom am I talking." Just because some people say #1 is right doesn't mean it is.

Just no

Well of course it's a subjective statement, and thus wouldn't be debatable in a formal debate setting, but I don't think this thread has to be that strict or formal, and there can be casual/playful debates or disagreements. I find it fun to hear others' opinions and how they differ from my own, even if it's not for the purpose of formally debating it and coming to a "correct" conclusion.

5 hours ago, Clinically insane said:

Non cosmere reckoners is realllyyyy good

It honestly is very underrated. I reread them earlier this year and they were better than I remembered. Lux was a bit more mid, but I might've just burnt myself out on it by listening to it 8 times to make its Coppermind pages xD

[Keke They/he]

9 hours ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

honestly is very underrated. I reread them earlier this year and they were better than I remembered. Lux was a bit more mid, but I might've just burnt myself out on it by listening to it 8 times to make its Coppermind pages xD

Yeah lux was different. Still good tho.

YES it deserves more attention! The storyline is awesome. The characters are great. AND THE ENDING IS LQLEOFOWKBFJFOELDLNFNRJRKDKDK

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

Hot take: moash isn’t that bad of a person

[Keke They/he]

Just now, सत्य हेर्ने said:

Hot take: moash isn’t that bad of a person

Srsly 

MOASH SUCKS BOOTY

HERES WHY 

spoilers for oathbringer and maybe a lil of row

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HE BETRAYS KAL, HURTD KAL, KILLS EHLOKAR CAUSING KAL TO GET EVEN MORE DEPRESSED AND HE JOINS THE PARSHEDI AND HELPS THEM AND TEAMS UP WITH ODIUM 

duh

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

7 minutes ago, Clinically insane said:

Srsly 

MOASH SUCKS BOOTY

HERES WHY 

spoilers for oathbringer and maybe a lil of row

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HE BETRAYS KAL, HURTD KAL, KILLS EHLOKAR CAUSING KAL TO GET EVEN MORE DEPRESSED AND HE JOINS THE PARSHEDI AND HELPS THEM AND TEAMS UP WITH ODIUM 

duh

He really is justified. Spoilers for OB and. ROQ

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his grandparents are dead because of the alethi legal system, so he rebels. He’s basically just fighting for his rights. He’s basically just Kaladin but if he tried going against the light eyes, and Kaladin is just if moash never betrayed Kal

 

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He was manipulated into joining odium

 

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[Keke They/he]

3 minutes ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

He really is justified.

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his grandparents are dead because of the alethi legal system, so he rebels. He’s basically just fighting for his rights. He’s basically just Kaladin but if he tried going against the light eyes, and Kaladin is just if moash never betrayed Kal

 

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He was manipulated into joining odium

 

… THAT DOESNT JUSTIFY IT

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kaladin gave him a solution other then killing ehlokar but he still did. He WILLINGLY joined the singers and WILLINGLY gives them intel and helps them

 

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

Just now, Clinically insane said:

… THAT DOESNT JUSTIFY IT

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kaladin gave him a solution other then killing ehlokar but he still did. He WILLINGLY joined the singers and WILLINGLY gives them intel and helps them

 

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Didnt Kal want to also join the singers after helping that one group? The first time Moash helped the singers was because they were being used as slaves by the fused. 

Sometimes the best action needed for change is violence. That’s what happened in most revolutions in our world. You could argue those actions aren’t just.

 

[Keke They/he]

2 minutes ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

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Didnt Kal want to also join the singers after helping that one group? The first time Moash helped the singers was because they were being used as slaves by the fused. 

Sometimes the best action needed for change is violence. That’s what happened in most revolutions in our world. You could argue those actions aren’t just.

 

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He felt inclined to but didn’t actually join them. Yes he helped them at first cause they were slaved but then MOASH helped THE NINe or whatever and became A CENTER piece in the whole thing

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Edited March 6, 2025 by Clinically insane

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

Just now, Clinically insane said:

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He felt inclined to but didn’t actually join them. Yes he helped them at first cause they were slaved but then MOASH helped THE NINe or whatever and became A CENTER piece in the whole thing

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He was being emotional manipulated by odium, my guy said he was gonna take away all his pain and guilt.

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when i get home from school later i need to check row cuz i swear it said he felt guilty, once odium stopped taking away his pain

 

 

[Terrisman]

I have an interesting debate. 3 people are in a desert. A B and C. C is really annoying so A and B decide to kill him. Each one doesn’t know the other one wants to kill C. C has 1 water bottle so A poisons his water bottle. Before C can drink it, B pours out the water bottle so that C has nothing to drink. C dies of thirst. Who killed C? Was it A or B?

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[Keke They/he]

2 minutes ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

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He was being emotional manipulated by odium, my guy said he was gonna take away all his pain and guilt.

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when i get home from school later i need to check row cuz i swear it said he felt guilty, once odium stopped taking away his pain

 

 

Alright, i dunno cause im only a lil less then half way through row

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

Just now, Clinically insane said:

Alright, i dunno cause im only a lil less then half way through row

Oh okay! Ill make sure to steer clear of second half row

3 minutes ago, Terrisman said:

I have an interesting debate. 3 people are in a desert. A B and C. C is really annoying so A and B decide to kill him. Each one doesn’t know the other one wants to kill C. C has 1 water bottle so A poisons his water bottle. Before C can drink it, B pours out the water bottle so that C has nothing to drink. C dies of thirst. Who killed C? Was it A or B?

B, he emptied the water

[Terrisman]

1 minute ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

B, he emptied the water

Ahhhh but what he emptied was poison 

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

Just now, Terrisman said:

Ahhhh but what he emptied was poison 

He died of thirst not poison. If he drank the water he wouldn’t die of thirst he would die of poison.

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[Keke They/he]

4 minutes ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

Oh okay! Ill make sure to steer clear of second half row

[Terrisman]

Just now, सत्य हेर्ने said:

He died of thirst not poison. If he drank the water he wouldn’t die of thirst he would die of poison.

Maybe, but by pouring out the poison if anything he prolonged C’s life.

once the water was poisoned it wouldn’t have kept C alive so when B poured it out he didn’t do anything to kill C

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

27 minutes ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

Hot take: moash isn’t that bad of a person

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Don't click Hawks
 

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Me personally I'll never forgive Moash or like him, just because he A) Killed one of my favorites at the end of RoW (scene still makes me tear up), and he was actively trying to convince Kaladin to kill himself. As someone who's dealt with suicidal thoughts before, that part especially makes me hate his guts.

 

 

 

 

[Keke They/he]

1 minute ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

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Don't click Hawks
 

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Me personally I'll never forgive Moash or like him, just because he A) Killed one of my favorites at the end of RoW (scene still makes me tear up), and he was actively trying to convince Kaladin to kill himself. As someone who's dealt with suicidal thoughts before, that part especially makes me hate his guts.

 

 

 

 

I was literally gonna tap it until i saw you straight up called me out. 

I have a habit of clicked the box while reading to top.

*grumbles in unmotivated to read*

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

Just now, Clinically insane said:

I have a habit of clicked the box while reading to top.

 

Lol as you know, I also have a bad problem clicking spoilerssss
So I get it xD

[Keke They/he]

4 minutes ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

Lol as you know, I also have a bad problem clicking spoilerssss
So I get it xD

It’s like

allll your questions will be answered in this oneee box 

[Tinwatcher I don’t mind]

29 minutes ago, Terrisman said:

Maybe, but by pouring out the poison if anything he prolonged C’s life.

once the water was poisoned it wouldn’t have kept C alive so when B poured it out he didn’t do anything to kill C

I think human bodies can just vomit out poisons sometimes, but it depends how strong it is.

 

29 minutes ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

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Me personally I'll never forgive Moash or like him, just because he A) Killed one of my favorites at the end of RoW (scene still makes me tear up), and he was actively trying to convince Kaladin to kill himself. As someone who's dealt with suicidal thoughts before, that part especially makes me hate his guts.

 

 

 

 

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He was just trying to protect Kaladin from odium 

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It’s not letting me get rid of this box.

 

 

 

[Terrisman]

2 hours ago, सत्य हेर्ने said:

I think human bodies can just vomit out poisons sometimes, but it depends how strong it is.

It’s obviously got to be strong enough to kill him

[Entr0pic He/him]

1 hour ago, Terrisman said:

It’s obviously got to be strong enough to kill him

Why? How would be get strong, presumedly clear/odorless poison out in the middle of the desert? And why would the average person keep that to anyway? 

[Terrisman]

1 hour ago, Timiny said:

Why? How would be get strong, presumedly clear/odorless poison out in the middle of the desert? And why would the average person keep that to anyway? 

in the question at hand, one of them had clear odorless poison strong enough to kill. the question was, who is the murderer?

(i dont know why he had it. maybe he was an assassin)

[Entr0pic He/him]

3 minutes ago, Terrisman said:

in the question at hand, one of them had clear odorless poison strong enough to kill. the question was, who is the murderer?

(i dont know why he had it. maybe he was an assassin)

Still, it’s the person who dumped out his water. Doesn’t matter what his water had in it