5th ideal, immortality?

[ChillPenguin]

In WaT, Ishtar scolds Szeth for casting aside his 5th ideal oath saying that Szeth could have been immortal. Not long after, Kaladin swears his 5th ideal so I would assume he’s got the same benefit.

Then when we get the forging of the new Oathpact, Ishar does something to Kaladin to make him immortal. It seems like Syl is all in on this anyway, so Kaladin should already be immortal. Is it because the Radiant immortality depends on Stormlight? Or is it just that Kaladin has to share the same kind of immortality the Heralds have? Or is it because Ishar expected Szeth to just become a Herald at that point?

Kind of a crazy thing if 5th ideal radiants can be immortal though. Would that mean they have enough investiture for other passive benefits?

[NameIess]

6 minutes ago, ChillPenguin said:

In WaT, Ishtar scolds Szeth for casting aside his 5th ideal oath saying that Szeth could have been immortal. Not long after, Kaladin swears his 5th ideal so I would assume he’s got the same benefit.

Then when we get the forging of the new Oathpact, Ishar does something to Kaladin to make him immortal. It seems like Syl is all in on this anyway, so Kaladin should already be immortal. Is it because the Radiant immortality depends on Stormlight? Or is it just that Kaladin has to share the same kind of immortality the Heralds have? Or is it because Ishar expected Szeth to just become a Herald at that point?

Kind of a crazy thing if 5th ideal radiants can be immortal though. Would that mean they have enough investiture for other passive benefits?

I think Ishar was referring to Szeth throwing away his chance at becoming a Herald. the fifth ideal granting immortality feels just completely out of the blue, and Syl or one of the other spren probably would've mentioned it.