Martial Arts Discussion

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

6 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

WRISTLOCKS

I've been banned from doing wristlocks until I get blue belt because I was doing them too much

Like getting hit a lot in boxing, or just hurt from hitting things?

Getting hit.

Hitting things is fine.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Getting hit.

Hitting things is fine.

Yeah that makes sense

[Vielence She/Her]

On 1/24/2025 at 4:41 AM, Queen Elsa Steelheart said:

It's really fun! I love it It's helped me massively mentally and physically.

Omg same. 
I originally was introduced to martial arts at a young age, but it took several years to get fully into it. Most of what I know was taught by a friend who has a black belt in TKD, and I have chronic anxiety so I got really into staff work after reading SA bc of how much I related to Kaladin. 
We happened to have a 6 foot long heavy stick in the back. 
I messed around for about a month basing stuff of the not-very-clear combat and training scenes until I was gifted a book (the art and science of staff fighting, by Joe Varady)

It’s been 4 months since then. I have vastly improved and I’m enjoying it so much. 

This thread idea is GREAT btw

[Treamayne]

TKD was the first martial art I studied back in 1983, but it didn't last long (for me or that school, the instructor had "issues" - purposeful injury as a motivational tool for children). . . 

Much later:

On 8/11/2025 at 1:23 PM, Shard of Sharks said:

I do Taekwondo. I'm Korean, and basically all the guys in my family have a black belt or better. It's great for kicking form and self-discipline, but not for self defense. I learned jiujitsu and kickboxing to develop a viable MMA fighting style. TKD is great for doing pretty kicks and breaking bricks, but I needed to learn some other things in order to be able to actually spar against other people outside of TKD. The punching and grappling specifically are pretty neglected, but you get flexible and fast, along with some elite footwork. 

I did one of my university Korean studies papers (연대 어학당) on the formation of Hwarang (화랑) during Korea's Three-Kingdoms period (신라, 백제, 고구려) and how that influenced modern Korean martial arts like TKD and Hwarang do.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

5 hours ago, VieB13 said:

Omg same. 
I originally was introduced to martial arts at a young age, but it took several years to get fully into it. Most of what I know was taught by a friend who has a black belt in TKD, and I have chronic anxiety so I got really into staff work after reading SA bc of how much I related to Kaladin. 
We happened to have a 6 foot long heavy stick in the back. 
I messed around for about a month basing stuff of the not-very-clear combat and training scenes until I was gifted a book (the art and science of staff fighting, by Joe Varady)

It’s been 4 months since then. I have vastly improved and I’m enjoying it so much. 

This thread idea is GREAT btw

I already know most of this obviously, but I had a thought earlier: if you like staff, there's a chance you may like short stick (tambo)

1 hour ago, Treamayne said:

TKD was the first martial art I studied back in 1983, but it didn't last long (for me or that school, the instructor had "issues" - purposeful injury as a motivational tool for children). . . 

Much later:

I did one of my university Korean studies papers (연대 어학당) on the formation of Hwarang (화랑) during Korea's Three-Kingdoms period (신라, 백제, 고구려) and how that influenced modern Korean martial arts like TKD and Hwarang do.

Oof. Yeah, that's unfortunately a common teaching technique, and it angers me to no end.

Also, that's really cool! What's Hwarang do? Not familiar with that one

[Treamayne]

6 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Also, that's really cool! What's Hwarang do? Not familiar with that one

화랑도 (花郞道) - Hwarang-do

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The modern martial art of Hwa Rang Do was founded by two Korean brothers, Joo Bang Lee and Joo Sang Lee, who started their martial art training with their father who taught them Judo and Kumdo at a young age. In 1942, their father worked out a deal with a monk who was locally known as Suahm Dosa to educate his sons in traditional Korean cultural training. Suahm Dosa claimed to practice within a tradition that had its roots with the ancient Hwarang, which he called Um-Yang Kwon (음양권; 陰陽拳). (Note that "Dosa" is actually his title, not his name. It is roughly equivalent to "hermit sage expert".) Both Joo Bang Lee and his brother Joo Sang Lee trained with Suahm Dosa at the Sogwangsa Temple in the Kangwon Province (North Korea), before the breakout of the Korean War and they had to flee south to avoid the communist military. The Lee family relocated to Seoul and Suahm Dosa, according to the Lee family, relocated to Odae Mountain.

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In 1968, Suahm Dosa died and left the title of "Do Ju" to Joo Bang Lee, as well as designating him as the 58th successive holder of this title. The two brothers then took all their martial arts knowledge and generated the Hwa Rang Do syllabus. They established the name "Hwa Rang Do" as its own entity separate from their involvement with the Hapkido community (earlier versions of their school's name included Hwarang-Kwon and Hwarang-Hapkido) and they continued with their Hwarang teachings. In 1969, Joo Sang Lee moved to the United States to start a school and in 1972, Joo Bang Lee followed, taking the World Headquarters of Hwa Rang Do with him.

Through the 1970s and 1980s, Hwa Rang Do grew throughout California and the adjacent states as well as making its mark on the international martial art scene. Both Joo Bang Lee and Joo Sang Lee performed in expo style demonstrations in the south west United States, particularity in California and Arizona, as well as on TV shows including “That's Incredible!” and “Unknown Powers”. Notably, Hwa Rang Do students who trained under the Lee brothers like Vietnam veteran Michael Echanis (1950–1978), were fundamental with Hwa Rang Do's involvement with the US Army Rangers and Special Forces, thus bringing additional credibility to Hwa Rang Do's martial art training.

Hope that helps

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

4 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

화랑도 (花郞道) - Hwarang-do

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The modern martial art of Hwa Rang Do was founded by two Korean brothers, Joo Bang Lee and Joo Sang Lee, who started their martial art training with their father who taught them Judo and Kumdo at a young age. In 1942, their father worked out a deal with a monk who was locally known as Suahm Dosa to educate his sons in traditional Korean cultural training. Suahm Dosa claimed to practice within a tradition that had its roots with the ancient Hwarang, which he called Um-Yang Kwon (음양권; 陰陽拳). (Note that "Dosa" is actually his title, not his name. It is roughly equivalent to "hermit sage expert".) Both Joo Bang Lee and his brother Joo Sang Lee trained with Suahm Dosa at the Sogwangsa Temple in the Kangwon Province (North Korea), before the breakout of the Korean War and they had to flee south to avoid the communist military. The Lee family relocated to Seoul and Suahm Dosa, according to the Lee family, relocated to Odae Mountain.

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In 1968, Suahm Dosa died and left the title of "Do Ju" to Joo Bang Lee, as well as designating him as the 58th successive holder of this title. The two brothers then took all their martial arts knowledge and generated the Hwa Rang Do syllabus. They established the name "Hwa Rang Do" as its own entity separate from their involvement with the Hapkido community (earlier versions of their school's name included Hwarang-Kwon and Hwarang-Hapkido) and they continued with their Hwarang teachings. In 1969, Joo Sang Lee moved to the United States to start a school and in 1972, Joo Bang Lee followed, taking the World Headquarters of Hwa Rang Do with him.

Through the 1970s and 1980s, Hwa Rang Do grew throughout California and the adjacent states as well as making its mark on the international martial art scene. Both Joo Bang Lee and Joo Sang Lee performed in expo style demonstrations in the south west United States, particularity in California and Arizona, as well as on TV shows including “That's Incredible!” and “Unknown Powers”. Notably, Hwa Rang Do students who trained under the Lee brothers like Vietnam veteran Michael Echanis (1950–1978), were fundamental with Hwa Rang Do's involvement with the US Army Rangers and Special Forces, thus bringing additional credibility to Hwa Rang Do's martial art training.

Hope that helps

That's pretty cool!

How related to Hapkido is it? You mention Hapkido, but the prior context is removed

[Treamayne]

7 hours ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

How related to Hapkido is it? You mention Hapkido, but the prior context is removed

No offense intended, but that is why I linked the Wikipedia article the extract came from - so you can easily read more if you want. I find it unethical for me to copy an entire article (from any site, not just WikiMedia - who do great work and deserve our support) when it is easier to let the people who are interested read/skim the original page (which would allow them to link to related pages). My Apologies. 

[Vielence She/Her]

23 hours ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

I already know most of this obviously, but I had a thought earlier: if you like staff, there's a chance you may like short stick (tambo)

I’ve been told! I’m focusing on staff right now, but I think I’m the future maybe I should do that. 

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

I just found this thread!

 

I do a very recent program that was invented based off of the Jedi in star wars, so we do some parkour, gymnastics, acrobatics, judo, hapkido, aikido, and Japanese sword work rolled into one. 

I also do HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) specifically German longsword and montante. 

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Just now, KnightSkye Reforged said:

I just found this thread!

 

I do a very recent program that was invented based off of the Jedi in star wars, so we do some parkour, gymnastics, acrobatics, judo, hapkido, aikido, and Japanese sword work rolled into one. 

I also do HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) specifically German longsword and montante. 

...

@MirkerLurker is that you? No double accounts!

Seriously though that's funny, y'all practically do the same kind of stuff

I know a fair amount of that stuff separately, it seems cool rolled together!

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

1 minute ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

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@MirkerLurker is that you? No double accounts!

Seriously though that's funny, y'all practically do the same kind of stuff

I know a fair amount of that stuff separately, it seems cool rolled together!

Ha! yeah, I introduced her to my Jedi program, and she introduced me to HEMA. 

It is cool. I actually tested a month or so ago, where I jumped up three ranks. Now I have two years to train for my black belt.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 minute ago, KnightSkye Reforged said:

Ha! yeah, I introduced her to my Jedi program, and she introduced me to HEMA. 

It is cool. I actually tested a month or so ago, where I jumped up three ranks. Now I have two years to train for my black belt.

What's the ranking system like? And is it like actual belts or more traditional lack of displayed rank?

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3 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

What's the ranking system like? And is it like actual belts or more traditional lack of displayed rank?

It is actual colored belts, and the least complicated and strictest program at that academy rank wise, cause our grandmaster wanted to simplify things. 

The ranks are based primarily on skill mastery, but also have a general estimate of how long you are usually at that rank.

The ranks go: 

White (trial belt, to see if you'll stay in the class.): 1 month.

Sand: 3 months.

Brown: 6 months.

Gold: 12 months.

Green: 18 months.

Blue: 2 years.

Purple: 2 years.

Red: 2 years.

Grey (apprentice): 3 years.

Black: mastery of the program. 

 

I have been going for about 10 years, going to class twice a week, and practicing at home every day for an hour or two.

 

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 minute ago, KnightSkye Reforged said:

It is actual colored belts, and the least complicated and strictest program at that academy rank wise, cause our grandmaster wanted to simplify things. 

The ranks are based primarily on skill mastery, but also have a general estimate of how long you are usually at that rank.

The ranks go: 

White (trial belt, to see if you'll stay in the class.): 1 month.

Sand: 3 months.

Brown: 6 months.

Gold: 12 months.

Green: 18 months.

Blue: 2 years.

Purple: 2 years.

Red: 2 years.

Grey (apprentice): 3 years.

Black: mastery of the program. 

 

I have been going for about 10 years, going to class twice a week, and practicing at home every day for an hour or two.

 

Ok, those are some sick belts. Interesting that brown is early. Any change in belt after black belt?

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

Just now, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Ok, those are some sick belts. Interesting that brown is early. Any change in belt after black belt?

No, as far as we know now. This program is only 11 years old, I was one of the first 15 people to join, and grandmaster just finished the ranking system.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, KnightSkye Reforged said:

No, as far as we know now. This program is only 11 years old, I was one of the first 15 people to join, and grandmaster just finished the ranking system.

Ohh ok interesting

I appreciate new styles, mine isn't even a century old yet. Any separation of kids' ranks, or is it all the same?

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

Just now, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Ohh ok interesting

I appreciate new styles, mine isn't even a century old yet. Any separation of kids' ranks, or is it all the same?

Alk the same right now, but we are planning on separating them in the future. So far, everyone who's joined are either very fit adults, or crazy skillful children.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 minute ago, KnightSkye Reforged said:

Alk the same right now, but we are planning on separating them in the future. So far, everyone who's joined are either very fit adults, or crazy skillful children.

The scariest thing in the world is a 15-year-old who's been training martial arts since they were 4

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

Just now, Kansas Stormcursed said:

The scariest thing in the world is a 15-year-old who's been training martial arts since they were 4

yes.

My friend who introduced my to Jedi was one of those. Even scarier are the ones that have been doing it that long, and are frustrated about a physical disability (he has a heart condition) and so compensate. 

I can just about beat him 45% of the time now, and only cause I can drag out the fight enough that he runs out of breath.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, KnightSkye Reforged said:

yes.

My friend who introduced my to Jedi was one of those. Even scarier are the ones that have been doing it that long, and are frustrated about a physical disability (he has a heart condition) and so compensate. 

I can just about beat him 45% of the time now, and only cause I can drag out the fight enough that he runs out of breath.

Yeahh there's a few teens that are getting to the point I can hardly beat them, because they're finally starting to focus and actually use what they know

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

Just now, Kansas Stormcursed said:

Yeahh there's a few teens that are getting to the point I can hardly beat them, because they're finally starting to focus and actually use what they know

Good for them! 

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, KnightSkye Reforged said:

Good for them! 

Yeah no it's really good

Not for me though cause sparring is not as much my strong suit. I'm capable, but I more prefer any jumping thing

[Vielence She/Her]

On 10/22/2025 at 12:22 PM, KnightSkye Reforged said:

I just found this thread!

 

I do a very recent program that was invented based off of the Jedi in star wars, so we do some parkour, gymnastics, acrobatics, judo, hapkido, aikido, and Japanese sword work rolled into one. 

I also do HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) specifically German longsword and montante. 

Okay that is SICK

I wanna do it lol