Era 4 star wars vs star trek

[bmcclure7]

 

 

 

"These were TimeTellers, one faction among the many Scadrian political movements. Theoretically they were neutral in the current conflicts. A group of scientists, seeking to “understand the various mysteries of the cosmere.” And they were absolutely not, of course, an arm of the military working in secret to develop tech that would let Scadrial stay ahead in the increasingly dangerous arms race that currently consumed most of the developed planets."

 

 

Sound like a certain star fleet?

 

Meanwhile on Roshar the orders of knight Radiant still exist 

“Rosharan, have you said the oaths?”

 

So we have super powered space knights with swords that can cut through any thing.

Did someone say Jedi or I'm a crazy?

 

 

[11thorderknight]

That's actually an awesome observation! 

[Elegy he/him]

Very good obversation, it definitely builds towards a magic vs. technology (that is fueled by magic) conflict, which makes sense in this context, since Star Trek is more science-based and Star Wars is more magic-based.

Brandon has said that Space Cosmere would be closer to Star Trek than Star Wars:

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Questioner

Is Khriss planned to be a major character in the future of the Cosmere, or will she be more of a behind-the-scenes source of knowledge?

Brandon Sanderson

I do plan some more--some actual Khriss stories. I mentioned I had a Silverlight story in the back of my head--she would have been one of the viewpoint characters of that if I ever get to write it. She will be in the background of most everything, but I do plan a few stories, that will have her. She will come the forefront the more the cosmere comes to the forefront, and more interaction between them.

For those who were curious, my plan for the Cosmere all along has been - now that I have something to point to, people say is it like the MCU? And, yes and no. I'm not developing specific characters to bring forward, some of them will of course will still be be around. My whole goal with the Cosmere is to push toward something a little bit more like Star Trek or Star Wars, in that lots of different cultures, lots of different things--more Star Trek I guess - interspace situation, the conflicts that come between cultures and ideals and things like that, is what I'm pushing for. Rather than taking like the champions of each book and having them. So the characters are important, certainly, but when you're reading a given book series, that's where your characters are important. If you're thinking about the future of the Cosmere, think more about the clash of cultures, is where I'm pushing that.

DragonCon 2019 (Aug. 29, 2019)

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Questioner

If you will say you're the MCU, to compare you, we're at, I think, the Winter Soldier period?

Brandon Sanderson

Maybe, yeah. The comparison to the MCU doesn't quite work. It is the closest thing. The thing that I warn people is that the convergence of the Cosmere books is more about the clash of the different cultures of the Cosmere worlds, and it's less about uniting a group of heroes. The MCU works because your title character, your title character, your title character, and your title character are going to team up, which is really cool. For the Cosmere, don't imagine that that's where I'm going, though some of those characters will show up. The idea is that I am building Star Trek one planet at a time, and I'm then going to deal with the intergalactic politics of it all, and it's the clash of all these different societies and their different magics and their way of seeing the world is what I'm pushing toward, rather than a big team-up event.

Questioner

I think everybody would like to know, what is the Infinity War of the Cosmere?

Brandon Sanderson

The equivalent would be the last Mistborn trilogy.

ICon 2019 (Oct. 15, 2019)

... which makes sense because the main Space Cosmere story is going to be a Mistborn story after all, so it's like Enterprise vs. the Jedi Order from the perspective of the Enterprise, or something like that. (Not knowing much or anything at all about who will be the protagonists etc., of course.)

[TheoreticalMagic]

For what its worth, his repeated focus on it being more like Star Trek than Star Wars sounds like that has more to do with plot than themes or tone. In Star Wars, for the MOST part, the plot is less about how individual cultures interact with each other and more about the operatic battle between good and evil, played out on a stage comprised of galactic wide civilizations that are a melting pot of all kinds of cultures and races whose allegiances are more defined by political affiliation than native culture. In Star Trek, for as much as the large scale conflicts are between races like the Borg and melting pot civilizations like the Federation itself, the plot focus tends to be more focused on the interactions of cultures WITHIN the Federation just as much as without, and with a lot of the interactions between Federation and non-Federation cultures revolving around things like First Contact scenarios....which Star Wars very rarely delves into, except for in things like the Expanded Universe books, with the Vong.

Just an observation. To me it means that I'm not reading too much into the 'more Star Trek than Star Wars' statements when it comes to things like vibe, for lack of a better word. Just to avoid using tone again and sound less redundant, lol. I'm sure we'll see Federation type civilizations or alliances and a lot of focus on exploration and first encounters between Shardworlds, that sort of thing.....but that's more about what KIND of stories are going to be told in Era 4, from a plot/catalyst standpoint, than to definitively rule out some of those encounters (or the races they're comprised of) feeling a lot tonally closer to the science fantasy vibes of Star Wars; the distinct and iconic melding of advanced technology like spaceships and the esoteric practices and philosophies of pivotal figures using a power that deliberately resists being easily framed in the context of scientific terminology and sci-fi technobabble. Obviously some cultures and civilizations are going to have a very structured and scientifically contextualized view of their Shardworld's magic and how it works and how best to use it.....we already see that in action. But I think there's just as many who are going to have less defined views of how their world's magic works and WHY it works that way....still governed by the same laws of Investiture and Realmatic Theory that Brandon made sure all his magic systems adhered to....but with a lot of the specifics as to HOW their world's magic can be definitively explained according to those laws and theory being elusive and hard to pin down, even for the most scientifically and magically advanced civilizations in the cosmere....whereas the cultures those magic systems are native to might adopt a more 'we don't always know how it works, its just vibes, man' approach to using their magic systems.