legolasgalactica Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Would people worshipping Kelsier add to his power as a cognitive shadow? Like the more people perceive an object as a particular thing, the stronger it's soul/spren are in the cognitive realm? like would it give him more investiture or something? Does this same concept increase the power of the shards as well?
+Invocation Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 I don't think it directly does anything like that, but it would make it easier to have people listening to him, for those he can worm his way into. 2
Cosmerenomics Enthusiest. Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 I agree I'm guessing he has recruited many members of the Ghostbloods from them and imagine what he could do if this became a dominant religion. We know he already regards himself as a Christ like figure he would probably just turn Scadrial into Ghostblood land
Mr. Misting he/him Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 10:40 AM, legolasgalactica said: Would people worshipping Kelsier add to his power as a cognitive shadow? Like the more people perceive an object as a particular thing, the stronger it's soul/spren are in the cognitive realm? like would it give him more investiture or something? Does this same concept increase the power of the shards as well? We know that the Heralds are good examples of cognitive shadows that are being worshipped. It's very hard to tell the effects of said attention, maybe it relates to their madness? That's a very interesting line of thought, I just don't think we know enough to follow it yet.
Duxredux he/him Posted August 7, 2022 Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) I'm with Invocation on this one. I doubt that people's perceptions of a Cognitive Shadow increase the amount of Investiture in their being, but as seen in Secret History, Connections formed from belief and relationships can give opportunities unavailable to someone with just raw Investiture. It was Kelsier's ability to understand and nudge his friends that gave him the edge when he held Preservation, more than the raw Investiture at his disposal I would say. He may have a greater than average ability to manipulate Survivorists when compared with other Scadrians I would say. So yes, Kelsier would have more power, but not in the way described in the original post. With regards to Shards, I'd say it's the same thing. Ruin over time excised information about Preservation from the the religions of Scadrial, altering the religious texts to nudge different peoples into releasing him from the Well of Ascension. This gave Ruin influence over the events that lead to his release, but the fact that Preservation was largely forgotten by the world was never cited as a factor in the imbalance of raw Investiture available to Ruin and Preservation. It was instead first Preservation putting more of his essence into humanity, then both Ruin and Preservation were weakened by Preservation sacrificing his mind to trap Ruin. After Ruin's escape, there was again some imbalance of power as the Mists were left to Snap the Scadrians and the Atium had been hidden from Ruin. Belief or disbelief in these forces didn't seem to give them more or less power. Edited August 7, 2022 by Duxredux Clarity
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