General religious discussion thread

[NameIess]

5 minutes ago, ParaTulip said:

For anyone new to this, I am referring to idea from The Gospel of Christian Atheism, which I find to be a text that is fairly aligned in notions to my own views of the headless and heartless image of a Dead God. I will also admit that I am still in the process of reading the book and figuring out how to express my sentiments about this. Please understand that my presentation of my sincerely felt beliefs is being trialed here, not being finalized.

@NameIessI think you are hitting it the closest with "Jesus is the sole person of the Godhead" or at least something more like "the whole Godhead was within Jesus". The book makes a big point of Kenosis, which I have taken to mean that God sacrificed aspects/became limited in nature in order to incarnate as Jesus. The author speaks of Word becoming flesh, becoming subject to history and the changing nature of the world. This negates God as a transcendent being and instead enmeshes God and the Word of God within the material flows of history, just as later Hegelians enmeshed his notion of spirit into the material flows.

I think this way of thinking creates a mode of Christianity which sees itself as wholly apart from the Jewish and the Muslim ways of thinking, as God the Father is also there. This creates a world where God was truly dead to even the Apostles on that fateful Saturday, which I think is the epoch the world remains in until the Pelagian project of a worldly paradise is realized for all souls.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a chair to assemble and some reading to do. I would love feedback on my post-christian totally-a-heresy beliefs.

The heresy there would be believing that Jesus was divested of Godhood when he became human. Jesus is fully man, but also fully God.

[ParaTulip fae/faer (declines as she/her)]

Well, my literal beliefs are that the gospels are largely as made up as every other world historic scripture. I think there are some good ideas there and some bad ones.

But also, Pelagianism is literally a defined heresy. I just think it is a better idea than the alternatives.