Link Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 So I've been intrigued to see how the gender politics would develop throughout book 2, and I actually noticed something that intrigued me. Towards the end of the book Kaladin mentions that the whole "lighteyes" racism thing is probably connected to the fact that the Radiants had lighter coloured eyes themselves. In considering this, I actually remembered a line earlier on (i wish I had a page number) where Syl mentions to Kaladin, "Honor created man." Going on this line of inquiry, I considered what if Honor created man, Cultivation created women and Odium created Parshendi out of spite as his own little vessels of everstorm evil. I got a bit stuck because I remembered that Preservation and Ruin couldn't create, but then I vaguely remember someone somewhere mentioned that was something very specific to their intent. Preservation and Ruin alone can't do actual creation, so it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility that each of the shards created their own genders, and by extension, made that binary a strong part of their culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricree Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 It's an open question whether or not the shards chose to recreate humanity rather than importing them, but humanity almost certainly existed before they were ever split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armless writer Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 The parshendi seem to be natural to Roshar Odium does not seem like a shard with the right intent to create intelligent life. It seems like he corrupted the parshendi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezedragon Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I agree, i think that the parshendi were on the planet first. Odium gave them a way to defeat the human thus adding his taint to the parshendi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I´m rather certain that Syl means "man" as in the human species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seonookim Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Brandon said that the Parshendi are not of Honor, Cultivation or Odium, so they're probably native. Also, if I was Rayse, I wouldn't make a species as intelligent as Parshendi, I would make a species obeys my commands completely, cannot think by itself, and wants to kill humans. The Last Legion escaped and Eshonai sought peace, so Rayse probably subverted the original process of Parshendi bonding to include voidspren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I was corrected on this yesterday by someone kind enough to dig up the WoB - the Listeners are not of Honour, and not originally of Cultivation or Odium. Odium clearly has something to do with the Voidbringer versions of the Listeners and Cultivation probably has something to do with the regular Listeners but neither one of them actually created the species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopen Skybreaker Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 If any species were to be created by Odium it seems logical to me that they would be a lot more violent internally than the Parshendi or any other species we've seen so far except the Koloss, but that's the wrong planet entirely, and they don't even truly fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Q: The hair color: is there a link between the hair color in Warbreaker and the hair color in—like with the Alethi always have black, and I can't remember the other country that always have their gold hair coloring?A: Yes. You are noticing something very interesting which was done deliberately. This also led me to think that not all humans are the same species of humans on Roshar.. for example Alethi and Iri.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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