Chid Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 When Ruin and Preservation combined, they became Harmony. What might other combined shards be called? Some guesses: Devotion+Dominion=Loyalty Devotion+Endowment=Charity Honor+Dominion+Endowment=Justice Odium+Honor=Vengeance (which would be totally awesome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Odium+Harmony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Since Ruin and Preservation cancel each other out, I think it would just be Odium with three times the power and more control over his intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 No, they don't. That's kind of the point. They are diametrically opposed, but used together rather than against eachother, they can create, destroy, and preserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chid Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 That's a hard one. I don't think hate and balance go very well together. Maybe Punishment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two McMillion Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Harmony's main goals seems to be to preserve free will. Odium hates, and thus the new shard would likely hate those who destroy free will. Thus, I propose- Freedom. Vengeance also makes sense. Do we know via WoB the names of any other shards? I think I saw someone mention a Kindness shard somewhere.Kindness + Odium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Odium+Harmony? Misanthropy? You hate everyone... equally, in harmony? Odium is sort of already in harmony. He hates everyone, and everyone hates him. It's hard to combine the two. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 It has been suggested devotion+dominion would be Nationalism. preservation+cultivation may be Utopia. odium+ruin would be Evil, just the only shard with a moral label to it. odium+preservation, tricky one. it hates you, but can't destroy you. maybe Imprisonment, or Stalking? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 The shard of Stalkers? I don't want to go to that planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just had an image of a neigorhood with this one guy walking down the street... and the entire population of the planet is following him from around the block. There are mountain-sized mounds of people kicking and struggling to see this one guy. In complete silence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 odium+preservation, tricky one. it hates you, but can't destroy you. maybe Imprisonment, or Stalking? Torture, maybe? I wouldn't want to get Odium + Preservation on my case. Put in a sort of stasis forever while being tortured and unable to do anything about it. The Heralds had it bad enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 There is WoB that Ruin and Cultivation would work well together. I guess their combined Intents could be Entropy, things growing and then dying as they naturally should. Though that does sound kind of boring... unless Entropy makes a race of giants who grow until their body can no longer support their weight, like an improved form of koloss, or like Bean from the Orson Scott Card's Ender series. odium+preservation, tricky one. it hates you, but can't destroy you. maybe Imprisonment, or Stalking? I'll go with Isolation. Maybe he'll make a race of extremely individualistic libertarians who live alone in their own fortress of solitude (or Kredik Shaws) and reproduce by mitosis, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 There is WoB that Ruin and Cultivation would work well together. I guess their combined Intents could be Entropy, things growing and then dying as they naturally should. Though that does sound kind of boring... unless Entropy makes a race of giants who grow until their body can no longer support their weight, like an improved form of koloss, or like Bean from the Orson Scott Card's Ender series. I'll go with Isolation. Maybe he'll make a race of extremely individualistic libertarians who live alone in their own fortress of solitude (or Kredik Shaws) and reproduce by mitosis, or something. I think Ruin already is Entropy. Ruin and Cultivation would be more like Mortality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) I think Ruin already is Entropy. Ruin and Cultivation would be more like Mortality. Sure. I was thinking that cultivation can also be seen as promoting entropy (in the sense of "lessening of disorder" rather than "energy dispersal", which is closer to Ruin's Intent), so that's what the two Shards have in common. But I guess Mortality also works. Edited February 20, 2014 by skaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chid Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 We know that Rayse doesn't want to take any more shards because it would change his nature. What if they somehow force or trick him into taking Honor so he will no longer be just Odium, but then the plan backfires because he swears vengeance, and he is now twice as powerful! Muahahahahaha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two McMillion Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Ruin + Honor = War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 preservation+cultivation may be Utopia. I am not even sure if this could work. I guess it should, but those two are about as diametrically opposed as Preservation and Ruin. You can't really cultivate or grow something if you are trying to preserve it and keep it unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) preservation+cultivation may be Utopia. I am not even sure if this could work. I guess it should, but those two are about as diametrically opposed as Preservation and Ruin. You can't really cultivate or grow something if you are trying to preserve it and keep it unchanged. Well, it could be Perfection: grow/cultivate something until it is in its best possible state, and then do everything to preserve that state. The problem is that humans created with such an Intent would be extremely competitive, especially against those they consider as "other". Without a universal standard of what is "perfect", discrimination, racism, and war might be common. So unless the holder of this hybrid Shard uses the Intent wisely, it wouldn't really be a utopia, I think. Edited February 21, 2014 by skaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haradion Drogon Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Odium + Ruin: Cruelty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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