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Goal: Gain a vague timeline of the Iriali people's travels. (Full Cosmere Spoilers) I would like to focus in on the Iriali and specifically speculate about their lands (including Lumar) 1 We know that Roshar is the 4th land. 2 The Iriali follow the "Long Trail" 3 People from Rira (Evi) have sayings that reflect the planets of Nalthis and Taldain 4 A queen in Iriali responds to Dalinar with comments about the tides 5 Rirans are different from the Iriali. 6 Autonomy's isolation principal has locked Kriss out of her homeland during the time she is writing her essays. 7 Nalthis and Roshar have a lot of interaction and linguistic similarities. New Secret Project Info 1 The Iri have been on Lumar. 2 A cup written in "their language", old Iriali, is written from up to down, not left to right. And made entirely of tin. (not Rosharan writing) 3 Disappeared 300 years prior to Secret Project 1 story. 4 Hoid does not appear to have Design at this time 300 years past their disappearance. 5 Iriali had at least one "king" on Lumar. (Probably three monarchs, though.) Assumptions 1 Evi's idioms can be traced to Taldain "Sun at night" quote and Nalthis from some color related quotes. And these quotes come from her partial Iriali heritage (golden hair, but not true golden hair) 2 Autonomy has isolated Taldain from the Cosmere for a significant amount of time. 3 There is only one group of Iriali roming the Cosmere. Speculation and Proto-Theorizing 1. With near certainty, we can say that the Iriali must have been to Lumar prior to Roshar, through abundant circumstantial evidence. a. Hoid makes no mention of Design. b. Rosharan and Scadrial references not present. c. Iriali have tide readers. "The Iriali religion may involve fortune-telling with ocean waves, as a member of the Iriali court is the court tidereader. A spanreed meeting between the Iriali queen and Dalinar was moved up because of something seen in the waves." -from a stormlight archive fandom wiki. Tide implies some sea-faring history and considering the importance of paying attention to the fluids on Lumar, it would be wise to have a tide reader. 2. Now, it gets interesting. We conclude that if Roshar is the 4th land, Lands 1-3 must be Nalthis, Taldain and Lumar My suggestion for order is 0th Before the beginning of the "Long Trail". (Perhaps destroyed in the shattering.) 1st Lumar --- Ancient Iriali writing that goes up to down must predate their visit to Taldain because on the Dayside of Taldain they write from left to write based on the current comics (papers on Heelis' desk). 2nd Taldain --- At some point travel to and from Taldain is blocked, but in early times of Kriss and Kenton, it is not blocked, so earlier is more likely for Taldain (additionally, I can only remember the one Evi expression). 3rd Nalthis --- There is a lot of interconnectedness between Roshar and Nalthis. Therefore, I think it seems logical that the last leg of the Long Trail, so far is from Nalthis to Roshar. 4th Roshar --- Confirmed. 7th Final land (Yolen?) 3. The question remains whether the golden Aether sea provided the Iriali with their golden hair, or, and I think this more likely, there is a 0th land. This stands to reason, based on how Charlie seemed to think the golden hair was something noteworthy, and we haven't seen anyone around with green hair or heard any mention of new inhabitants having golden hair. Hopefully this can be answered when we have the full book for Secret Project 1: Please add your own observations and theories. I am sure I missed some data and I have been unable to confirm the fact that I think that the Iriali on Roshar write from left to right.

So after some thinking this seems interesting. Silver makes some sense as being useful at destroying investiture since it is used to combat shades on Threnody. That potentially ties these planets together, since we haven't YET seen magical applications of silver on other worlds. In another thread someone (I think Pagerunner) suggested that silver might be useful specifically against corrupted investiture and that since these are spin-offs of the og Aethers they might have been corrupted or affected by alien investiture in some way. But why salt? My first thought is that if these Aether spores are some conjunction of an organic and inorganic matter, then perhaps silver kills the spores by affecting the the investiture, while the salt kills the organic portion. There are parallels in the real world where salt is used to preserve meat or in the pickling process - killing off or at least retarding the growth of microbes. Some salts can be used to kill weeds. Thus the salt portion may suggest this is how the spores are formed. This makes a lot of sense for something like Verdant which grows vines, but how not as much sense for other Aethers. Especially something like Amberite which creates rock/crystal. So that might count against the theory. Another possibility is that its not salt in general, but the specific form of salt found in/near the Rock. This might explain why the King has to order people to stay there, and why a war hero was assigned this place as duke. He wants to continue mining the salt and using it without letting other kingdoms know whats going on. This might tie into how even the air near the Rock is salty enough to kill the spores, which seemed really strange to me when I first read it. If its something other than the salt involved, perhaps even some form of investiture, that might explain how this works. I have trouble figuring out how salt can be used to negate investiture, since its such a common and easily obtained substance on every world. Someone else would have figured something out by now if this was a general rule. Therefore there must be something specific about either the spores or the salt that allows this.