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I would attribute the similarity to Odium and Development - my name for HonourXXCultivation - both copying the same fundamental Surges. And we're not seeing the direct action of the Fused's surges, only the results: It seems likely that the Honourblades and the Dawnspren would mimic each other -- Each would have a counterpart with the other.
Renarin has Illumnation differently than Shallan. This is true - except he still draws in Stormlight. Why would Stormlight be used for Voidbinding instead of Voidlight? And we have precedence for difference between usage of various Surges within the Knights Radiant. As The Stormfather told Dalinar, his Surge of Tension would be applied very differently as a Bondsmith than it would be applied for a Stoneward.
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On 1/16/2018 at 9:13 AM, Subvisual Haze said:
Yep that's a good point
Sometimes the spren are kind of paradoxical though. Like an honorspren is rather ethically inflexible when it comes to what they perceive as honorable, but their element is the most carefree and unrestricted element: wind. Cryptics are shaped like rational mathematical formulas, yet they're drawn to art and lies.
This could be one of those radical contrast situations. In the cognitive realm the highspren is opaque, you can't see through it at all. In the physical realm, it's the opposite, they're so transparent that you can see a slit-view of the starts above.
On the paradoxical Spren: I feel as though this is dissonance between Physical and Cognitive aspects, and don't view it as necessarily paradoxical. I feel it's more similar to magnetism: Things which physically manifest as unreliable and fickle, such as Wind, are drawn to the opposite: Honour.
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The Spren are cognitive entities: They exist because of the perception of sapient physical entities. The sapient ones want to be doing this: Much like the ship Shallan turned into water wanted to be a ship until she convinced it otherwise. The Oathgate spren similarly wanted to be fulfilling their duties. We can even see this in the Stormfather. He wants to be destructive and violent(until after being bonded with Dalinar for a while), because that's how he started. The Storms were perceived as destructive, and he started as only the cognitive manifestation of the Storms, and stayed that way even after he received a large portion of Honour. The nonsapient ones? They're literally representations of forces of nature, as perceived by humans/singers. Are windmills unethical because they enslave the wind? Are steam engines unethical because they trap the fire?
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I doubt this is the case.. A Spren tied to the Everstorm would be one of immense power, and we know this: There are three Greaterspren capable of forming bondsmiths: The Stormfather, The Nightmother, and The Sibling. Very little is known about The Sibling.. Except, one of the times when Dalinar asked the Stormfather for more specifics about The Sibling, he received an answer that he had been hurt enough. It seems unlikely that The Sibling is tied to Odium or the Everstorm.. In fact, it seems to be tied to Urithiru. Some of the epigraphs in OB indicate that.
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I would guess that the Fused are using Voidbinding simply because of the difference in Fuel, Ease of Use, and Power. The Fused are easily and intuitively able to fly. This can be attributed to experience: But why then is Kaladin able to outrun the Fused? There's some fundamental difference.
Honour and Cultivation are very much a pair: They were romantically engaged, and their powers were in no way contradictory. I think they'd be entirely fine with cooperating in all ways on their magic systems.0 -
Huh. So, basically, if anyone but the Skaa end up on Arrakis, then they are utterly and absolutely doomed?
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Szeth not feeling anything from it is, I suspect, a result of him being fully deranged and having come back slightly wrong. He's special. I do believe it has done it once in Oathbringer, except I can't say where. Except the thing is: Szeth isn't actively using it for that. Vasher was. Vasher would intentionally set it out so it could tempt and kill people, but Szeth has treated it with respect and, well, not done that. It's stayed sheathed except for when he's actively using it as a blade.
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Why is it called Harmonium and not Sazedite or Sazedium? It doesn't make sense to me that the previous godmetals were named after the Vessels except this was named after the Shard. Is there some concrete answer available, or is it just because Harmonium sounds better than Sazed(ite/ium)?
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Yeah, I came here to say what Andy said. The thread in question is here. I believe that this is what is happening here. I don't believe that there were any 'new' Spren following Tanavast's death, though that's not a requisite for splintering. The Divine Breaths of the Returned are Splinters of Endowment, if I remember correctly..
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Your taunts are ill-advised, Templar.
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Greatshells - such as the Chasm Beasts - pupate as storms approach so that new Spren can enter their gemhearts.
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I'm really liking the idea of the Subspren being associated with the bonds. It would make sense for the Armour - which is composed of several different parts - to be composed of several different Spren. Additionally, when Kaladin uses a Shardhelm as a glove, he doesn't hear screaming. Renarin doesn't show signs of that either. It makes sense that there'd be no screaming for Subspren, as they are not sentient in the way that Shardblades are.
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On 1/27/2018 at 1:27 PM, Isilel said:
And then he kept standing there and staring at her until Kalak dragged him off. I bet that he knew then and there that Jasnah was becoming a surge-binder, but, thankfully, couldn't touch her due to his psychosis. Directly, at least. Indirectly - well, Jasnah survived a lot of assassination attempts and who knows how her vendetta with the Ghostbloods came about
I have a very hard time imagining the Skybreakers using assassins.
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Ruin and Odium
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I'd say that Atium is good at Futuresight - when Ruin is not - because Atium is made by Preservation. Leras took a large portion of Ruin's body, swapped out two metals from the 'natural' Metallic Arts, and put Atium/Malatium in their place. Preservation made Atium - it uses Ruin's power, but was designed by Preservation. Ruin had some degree of foresight, so something designed by Preservation to use Ruin's power wouldn't be starting from scratch - it would be making more efficient use of some existing talent.