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4 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

with modern smelting, all the process is standardized so that there are no significant differences

I know this is a bit of a nit pick... but as a blade smith I can tell you that there is still a huge difference even with standardization. Probably it's mostly because of quality control differences, but there is still a noticeable difference in steels from different regions. 

I think Thenody Silver very well might be different from other silvers. Also I would like to see the effect of Silver on one of the corrupted Spren, it may be that it is a purifier of investiture.  

The story seems to have intentional mentions of several planets and cultures. I second the notion that it is to a mixed group of people from many worlds. Maybe a pep talk before something dangerous we will witness in a future book? Or a guest lecture at Silverlight? Regardless I also was worried about the lack of Design.

Another point: He says sailors fear storms, this applies to all planets that have sailors even ours. He says, "But you come from a world where things live in the water; that idea was wholly alien to Tress," this also applies to many worlds although Sixth and Roshar are the two most prominent for having dangerous things in the water. I don't feel that either of these narrow it down. all tech references seemed to be reworded quickly to avoid confusing his audiance "Laptop" to "Seeing Board". He mentions Awakened, Aviars, Sazed, Aeons, Death with Nails in eyes, and tons more... it seems like it has to be a group. 

those are some good points against, thanks for the data points. I honestly have been wrong almost 100% of the time with Sanderson's books, but it is fun to come up with theories and talk about them. I think you guys are right, her not recognizing the other Heralds and getting so excited about the Fabrials are pretty much deff proof she isn't a herald. Still there is going to be some interesting reveals with her I am positive. 

I don't know that this quote completely disproves the theory, since "Navani" as a Persona could be only a few months older than Dalinar in the same way you could say Veil is only a few months old... again its only a theory and it might not hold water. 

also there is this from WoR "To be perfectly frank, what has happened these last two months is upon my head. The death, destruction, loss, and pain are my burden. I should have seen it coming. And I should have stopped it."

how should she have stopped it? At first I thought this was just normal grief guilt... but what if it wasn't

then there is this "We had never considered that there might be Parshendi spies hiding among our slaves. This is something else I should have seen."

but they didn't know Parshendi could change forms until much later. How should she have seen it unless she knew more of them than she should have?  

I did think about the Stormfather, but since he can't "see" most of the heralds I was wondering if they have a way of hiding, at the start of Oathbringer he says he only sees Ishar. unless someone has a quote I don't...? he doesn't even know where Jezrein is and he was barely even hiding.

I have seriously been wondering if she was a herald, seems very interesting that there is so little discussed about her background. And in Oathbringer there's a line "she had no problem being a wife or mother to monarchs but to be one herself... Storms what a dark path that would lead them all down." 

another overlap is how close soul casting and Forging actually are. If you remember the explanation given about Forging indicated that the object Forged had to want to change... "I am a stick" 

last night at the lexington signing I asked Brandon if the powder Shallan saw Hoid pour in his drink was an alumantic metal, he replied that he hadn't confirmed that, but it was a clever question. he then signed my book with "These words are accepted". Maybe reading to much into it, but... 

I wish I had asked if honor blades could be stolen, that would have provided some insight into what happened with Dalinar's blade.

Also does anyone have confirmation that Hoid actually took the bead of larisium? 

I asked Brandon if the powder Shallan saw Hoid pour in his drink was an alumantic metal, he replied that he hadn't confirmed that, but it was a clever question. he then signed my book with "These words are accepted". Maybe reading to much into it, but... 

I wish I had asked if honor blades could be stolen, that would have provided some insight into what happened with Dalinar's blade.

if an honor blade cannot be bonded but can be given (several posters are saying that Brandon made that comment), doesn't that mean that it cannot be stolen? How would Hoid have managed this unless he was able to use some of his other powers to convince Taln to give it to him... 

I can imagine something like Wayn's trading going on... "Left him a nice cleaver for it!"

Mistborn Spoilers.

The fact his fiance is a terrible person to Marry. I mean technically infidelity isn't even against the rules of their marriage. She included a clause for it in their relationship contract.

possibly one of the saddest things I have yet seen in the mistborn saga, that wedding document... (Ok so not sad as much as funny... but still) 

I actually agree with you based on logic, but I also don't know why Kaladin wouldn't react to hearing a strange name for one of the Heralds.  Or, he was in prison and didn't really think about it or care

He kinda reacted to the entire story being weird, seemed to take a lot of strange things in stride because it was Hoid... don't think we can use his reaction as a confirmation that he knew that name. 

in the first story I had assumed that Hoid was the one explaining that Beauty cannot be stolen, I pretty well assume that there is an anti-Hoid running around somewhere in the Cosmere. I would guess that they were friends at the start and have very different world views now. I would hazard the guess that the two men sitting on the cliff are most likely the authors of the two letters. One of which is probably written by Hoid. 

get annoyed at some of the reviews you see on amazon or audible? 

I find myself really happy to down vote some of the dumb reviews, like a guy who read 100 pages then posted a 1 star review... 

What if the secret is that be opening themselves to the spren they open themselves to Odium now that Honor is dead?

 

Think about it, Honor was still alive during the other desolations, he would have been able to exert a modicum of control over the Radiants to stop them from being taken over like the Parshendi. Perhaps without him, they have no shield to Odium except their own will?

 

This might actually explain what Syl meant when she said to Kaladin that he is not supposed to be like this. Perhaps it takes far more strength of will to resist it now and if thats the case, then surgebinding could actually become a real problem.

 

The Stormform Parshendi are nothing to what a truly out of control surgebinder could do. We've seen what Szeth could do, if there were hundreds of him being controlled by Odium...

 

 

It might actually explain the Recreance to an extent if this is actually the case; because if their spren had been infected by Odium then the Radiants could not risk releasing them, so perhaps they intentionally locked them into their shardblade form to stop them from being able to do the same again with a new surgebinder.

 

The spren within shadesmar might not even realise the significance and decided it was mankinds betrayal rather than the weakened state it places both man and spren in when they are bound.

The Oaths prevent Surgbinders from going out of control. If the spren could warp a Surgbinder into acting with power against his oaths how did breaking the Oaths kill those spren? doesn't add up... 

two minor passages are standing out to me as important here.

1) Hoid talking to Shallan, this is paraphrased so if someone else wants to find the passage for the exact wording... I would but I'm an audiobook reader... 

2) was in one of the chapter titles, it talked about how the war could be won because of something the Bondsmiths could do. 

maybe the bondsmiths bound something into the sphere and it required surgebinding to never happen again for it to work...  

 

I agree with this idea. Everyone in Bridge 4 seems to think that Bridge 4 was their salvation. Kaladin never understands this. Even as his men are getting tattooed and as Hobber is explaining that he was freed not from Bridge 4, but by it, Kaladin is squirming inside. I think that, more than anything, is why the tattoos didn't take. Kaladin does not believe that he was freed by Bridge 4, and so it's not a part of him.

Kaladin wasn't really freed by Bridge 4. He, in taking responsibility for bridge 4, is still serving bridge 4 more than anyone else. He is more hurt when one of them dies than when anyone else does. He is still in some ways chained to the bridge.  

A few days ago someone said that Brandon was quoted "Cultivation's intent is closest to Odium" I can't find that post now. 

If that is true then Odium wouldn't want to destroy her since he could make use of her intent running a close parallel to his own. my theory anyway. 

um, wow that I would never have seen coming... it all makes perfect sense. -backs away slowly- 

I would say that Adolin or Teft should get it. Yeah there are good reasons for both not to be picked but I cannot think of a better person... unless the Heralds show back up... 

Just a clarification.  I'm fairly certain that Wyndle was referring to Nightwatcher as his mother and not the Old Magic, directly.  Much in the same way that Syl refers to the Stormfather as her father.  It makes sense since she's related to windspren. 

 

If the Stormfather is the spren left behind after the Almighty was killed, Nightwatcher may be the spren left behind when Cultivation was killed.  It would make sense since both are apparently capable of great feats (granting wishing, summoning storms) that ordinary spren cannot.  It would also make sense that a plant-based spren would think of the spren of Cultivation to be his mother.

I thought Cultivation was still alive. Hoid made a comment that there was "Only one woman his age around here, and they never got along". seems like the Nightwatcher could actually be Cultivation. probably not, she is probably a spren but, if Cultivation is alive...

after what happened during that flashback, I still think he was messing with the emotions of both Shallan, her brother and her dad. Shallan and her brother both made very important emotional leaps then, It started them on the road to recovery...but this is just my impression.

Did anyone else notice in the segment that orders the death of Dalinar was the "Third translation from the original". It makes more sense that if Dalinar sues for peace he would be the "Greatest of Allies" and if he were to "Take the path of the Warlord" he should be killed...

I have to say top three best moments for me where

3rd) The duel of four

2nd) The Amaram apology

1st) The third oath