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    [Theory] All Radiants could Soulcast

    in Stormlight Archive

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    Alright, this is my first theory here.  Be gentle!

     

    I think it's possible that all the orders of the Knights Radiant has access to Soulcasting along with the other Surges granted by their particular order.  This stemmed from the scene where Kaladin is learning to do a Basic Lash and sees Shadesmar.  This bothered me and I kept thinking about it, concluding it may be possible Soulcasting to occur for other orders.
     

     

    "Kal?" Sigzil's voice asked, though it seemed distant.  Like an unimportant buzzing.

    ...
    The voice faded. For a moment, Kaladin thought he saw shadows of a world that was not, shadows of another place.  And in that place, a distance sky with a sun enclosed, almost as if by a corridor of clouds.
     
    WoR p. 469-470

     

    This is a bit strange.  It seems to imply that viewing Shadesmar was the reason that Kaladin was able to start performing the Basic Lash.  But this would be inconsistent with all the other non-Soulcasting surges we've seen used for the first time in the story.  Kaladin didn't view Shadesmar when he did either of the other two Lashes (Reverse Lashes while running bridges and Full Lashing when sticking the sphere pouch to the barrel).  Nor did Shallan view Shadesmar when she started Lightweaving for the first time.  But for some reason, Kaladin sees it here.  I believe he was so metally focused that he inadvertently crossed Realms, however briefly.  His experience is also very similar to Shallan's earlier in the book.
     

     

    Shallan set her jaw and tried again.  More slowly this time, slipping into that place with its strange sky and not-sun.  For a moment, she hovered between the worlds, Shadesmar overlaying the world around her like a shadowy afterimage.  Holding between the two was difficult.

     
    WoR p. 143

     

    Shallan hovers between the Realms, much like Kaladin did.  Kaladin sees Shadesmar but still is aware of Sigzil talking in the Physical Realm.
     
    The only two people we've seen Soulcast are of those two orders, but it's possible that it's simply a coincidence that the two who have Soulcast have access to the Transformation surge.
     

     

    "How do I make it change?" Shallan asked of Pattern.

    "Mm...I do not know.  You must persuade it.  Offer it truths, I think?"  
     
    WoR pg. 144

     

    Based on this, the requirements for Soulcasting seem to be visting Shadesmar while holding Stormlight, finding the object you wish to change, persuading it to change (be it through truth, logic or some other form of persuation) and offering the object the Stormlight as fuel for the change.  All of those steps appear to be able to be accomplished without a bond to a spren that would put one in the order of Lightweavers or Elsecallers.
     
    We've made the assumption that the surge of Transformation is Soulcasting.  It's even in the Ars Arcanum that way.  But that document is written from the perspective of someone in-world and probably shouldn't be taken as an absolute truth (though it's probably fairly accurate in most, if not all, aspects).
     

     

    Q: Is Soulcasting a subset of Surgebinding?

    A: Yes, it is.
     
    WoB  8/4/2011 Signing
     
    This would seem to imply that Soulcasting is one of the surges in the chart.  But I don't think it necessarily means that.  If you have access to surges, you would have access to Soulcasting due to being able to visit Shadesmar while holding Stormlight.  This would mean that Soulcasting is still a subset of Surgebinding while not necessarily being a specific surge.
     
    This does, however, leave the question of what the Transformation surge is if it is not Soulcasting?  It's possible that I'm way off here.  If I am, it still begs the question of why Kaladin briefly slipped into Shadesmar when learning to Lash.
     
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    New here...and a bit intimidated!

    in Introduce Yourself!

    Posted

    Hmm. . . That's a Rare power, That costs 16 breaths, or 10 Infused Emerald Bromes.

     

    Done.  I'll have to locate my Rosharan credit card though.

     

    Hello! Theories are awesome. You should post them.

     

    Definitely will when I have them finalized.  Working on two right now.  Just found a problem with one of them, so I don't know if I'll post that one.

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    Soulcasting Mind Control

    in Stormlight Archive

    Posted

    I suppose it's possible, though that would be a high precision level of soulcasting.  I guess you could soulcast the blood (it being one of the essences), much like Jasnah did, since blood flows to the brain and would potentially have an effect on thought.  You'd have to get the exact qualities of the blood right to influence thought.  Seems like a tall order.

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    Inconsistency at the end (Spoilers)

    in The Reckoners

    Posted

    Sure, I don't doubt that she'd know how to be Firefight.  I'm more curious as to how she knew to cast the illusion to make it look like she was flying in.  How did she know Steelheart would be flying in to a fight (and that she should therefore cast an accompanying illusion) if she couldn't remember recent events?

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    Inconsistency at the end (Spoilers)

    in The Reckoners

    Posted

    Something that didn't quite add up for me at the end right before and during the final conflict with Steelheart.  Just before Steelheart shows up, David sees what is implied to be Megan (the gold flash of light).  So she's in the stadium beforehand.  A short while later, Steelheart flies into the stadium with Nightwielder and Firefight.

     

    When Megan/Firefight shows up during the battle with Nightwielder, she shows that she is still disoriented and doesn't quite remember much (she hadn't yet watched the video of her latest death yet) to the point that she struggles to remember David's name.

     

    The question is: if she was so confused to the point of not remembering David, how would she be able to know to cast the illusion of the Firefight figure that flew in with Steelheart.  Am I missing something here?

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    New here...and a bit intimidated!

    in Introduce Yourself!

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    Ha, thanks guys.  I certainly don't mean that people here are intimidating in a bad way.  This is probably the most respectful message board I've ever seen on the internet.  Credit to the forum members!

     

    And I wouldn't mind getting spiked....as long as I'm on the receiving end.  And I realize that just sounds wrong.  Oh well!

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    New here...and a bit intimidated!

    in Introduce Yourself!

    Posted

    I've actually been a lurker here for years, but finally decided to make an account.  I've read all the books multiple times (and listened to them multiple times too). 

     

    I've got a few theories that have been kicking around in my head, but....man, ya'll are a bit intimidating when it comes to knowing things about these books!  Lotta Cosmere knowledge around here and some smart people putting things together,

     

    So yeah...Hi!

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