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Does anyone know when the links will go up? It's been 15 minutes already since the posted time and they haven't been updated.

I have seen the unchanged Stick and heard his voice. His return is eminent: tremble at his logic.

I don't think Kaladin got over his hatred of light eyes. I think he just realized that killing someone he didn't like or stepping aside to let someone he didn't like get killed wasn't right.

Edit: kind of like how Peter Parker stepping aside to let the thief go free just because the guy he was stealing from swindled him.

The question we should be asking is, which shard is Stick a splinter of?

(Bad pun intended)

I'm on my phone right now, so I can get any quotes, but I believe the horneater accent when speaking Alethi uses "he" or "she" instead of "it" when choosing pronouns for neuter objects.

However, his use if the phrase "another one" could hint that honorblades might be sentient, like the spren.

Not sure if this counts as necroing a thread, but the Taravangian interlude in WoR indicates that only two Honorblades give access to the growth surge. This is how he

Somehow I think Shallan's mistaken use of "Talat's Hand" is just her lack of knowledge of curses.

Mr. Sanderson personalized my copy with a fun fact about the horn eaters. I'll post a pic later, but essentially,

As the release date for WoR draws close, I decided to throw another wildly speculative theory in the ring. I don't think I've seen this before, but please correct me if I am wrong

So we know from the sample chapters that thunderclasts are spren that animate stone. My speculation is that like midnight essence, thunderclasts are one of the Ten Deaths, and that each Death arises from a corrupted spren from one of the surgebinding orders animating its respective essence to create some type of monster.

If this were the case, thunderclasts would be generated by spren from Kelek's order animating stone and midnight essence would be generated by spren from Nalan's order animating smoke.

Using this to extrapolate the other ten deaths, we'd have, in order starting with Jezrien's order: some type of air/storm elemental, midnight essence, some type of lava/fire elemental, evil crystals?, ents?, blood parasites?, environmental hazard (oil spill?), animated weapons/armor (a la Wheel of Time), thunderclasts, and zombies?

Obviously Mr. Sanderson has something much more interesting in mind, but this was hilarious to think up...

I tried making boxes that haven't been confirmed yet (i.e. Bondsmiths falling under Kelek) in gray, so that adds to the difficulty in reading. I'll change it once its been confirmed. 

Unfortunately, I just had a hard drive crash so I lost my original spreadsheet file :/ I'll end up making another for when I start my second reading of Words of Radiance!

Depends. What format is it in? Images you can upload to services like Imgur and Flickr. Documents, you do Dropbox (or some other cloud account of your preference - Google Drive, Amazon Cloud Drive, Microsoft Skydrive, Box, etc.). 

Here it is! 

I made this to use during my reread.

Edit: Actually made the link available

I have a chart that I made that's (as far as I know) up-to-date. Does anyone know how I can upload it?

If Syl (pure speculation) is 100% honor (judging that she is honorspren), and assuming marianmi's theory to be correct (that as you go down the 10 orders of KR you get more spren with more Cultivation in them), then we can extrapolate that around order 6 (Lightweavers), the spren will be 100% cultivation. 

This is complete speculation of course, but it has interesting symmetry, since to be a Lightweaver, you need a Cryptic, and the Cryptics have a rivalry with the honorspren... hmmm...

I figured that if Shallan and Jasnah make it to the shattered plains, then they would become Kaladin's responsibility to protect, since Dalinar wants him to cover all of his family members, and both Jasnah and Shallan now fit that description...

Edit: Is anyone else getting the feeling that Shallan and Jasnah won't make it to the shattered plains until the end if the book? I mean, just making it there with a few chapters of exposition would just be to easy, right?

Mine was more of a gut feeling. I like yours better because it's fleshed out and draws implications like using the plate as a battery!

Will +1 when I get on a computer

Another wild speculation post here, not sure if it's been covered before, but I thought I'd take a stab at how I visualize the windrunners in Dalinar's flashbacks using shardplate, even though Szeth seems to think that it isn't compatible (no factual basis behind this, just musings):

Since shardplate needs stormlight to be powered, I always imagined the Radiants feeding the plate stormlight that they have in their bodies, and when non Radiants picked up the plate, the needed another source of stormlight so they started using gems. This allowed Radiants to surgebind through plate but nobody else. Thoughts?

Sorry for the bad spelling, I'm typing in my phone.

Hmmn I don't know if I believe that bonding is what opens up a spren to corruption, but there may be something to the parshmen shutting themselves off to bonding, to prevent being bonded with a corrupt spren.

 

OMG, Galivar getting killed by the Parshendi for trying to revive the Knights Radiant. We already know that Darkness seems to believe that the resurgence of surge binding could lead to another desolation, what if the Parshendi had similar beliefs.

Yeah my thoughts on bonding=opens to corruption is totally baseless. Maybe instead, the Parshendi gave up their spren to become Parshmen and the Radiants gave up their spren for the same reasons - to escape corrupt spren...

Be welcomed take this upvote for breaking the shell =)

 

I like your theory because you thinked along what i believe and proposed in this topics

 

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4283-theory-spoillers-with-capital-s-the-secret-of-gavilar-murder-the-black-gem/

 

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4890-kind-unificated-voidbringer-theory-spoiler/

Reading those posts are what got me thinking about this!

[*spoiler*]Remove the stars, and this becomes forbidden knowledge.

[*/spoiler*]

Thanks!

Hello everyone! I've been lurking around the site for a few years now and have finally worked up the courage to post a theory! I'm not sure whether I should be posting here in the Words of Radiance Discussion, or if this is more appropriate for the general Stormlight Archive discussion...anyway, here it goes: the Parshmen/Parshendi, the betrayal Jasnah mentioned, and the Recreance, with a few speculations thrown in about why Gavilar had to die (I apologize in advance if this theory has already been covered somewhere else, but I couldn't find it all lumped together). I'll cite what I can as I go along...

From the new Words of Radiance chapters available,

"Once Sja-anat touches a spren, it acts strange." Words of Radiance Ch. 4

Since Odium doesn't want to over-invest himself on Roshar, it seems plausible to me that he would seek to work with or corrupt the entities already present, rather than create new races himself. Enter the Parshendi. Since their sense of identity is essentially bound to whether or not they are bonded to a spren, it makes sense that Odium's corruption of spren could cause devastating changes when one of these bonded to a Parshendi - especially if it happened en mass. I believe this was discussed here.

My theory stems from a speculation about how Odium actually corrupts spren. From Syl's interactions with Kaladin during the course of Way of Kings, we see her develop a personality the more time she spends with him:

"I'm...taking something from you. And giving something in return. It's the way it used to work...I'm willing to stop it...but I would go back to being as I was before...never remembering anything for longer than a few minutes. If we end it, I lose that." Way of Kings Ch. 57

Throughout their interactions, Kaladin remarks several times about how she is becoming more human. I speculate that when a spren binds to a surgebinder and becomes more human, they open themselves to Odium's influence and can be corrupted.

If this is the case,

Therefore, I further speculate that in order to break the cycle of Desolations, the original Radiants simultaneously broke their ties to their bonded spren. Unfortunately, this caused devastating consequences for the spren society, since many of the spren would suddenly have lost their identities/memories/purpose:

"If we end it, I lose that." Way of Kings Ch. 57

Therefore, the Recreance would be

This extra part is really wild speculation: This could also explain the existence of Parshmen (they gave up bonding to any spren to prevent getting a corrupt one), and maybe even why Gavilar had to die:

This is pretty much just bits and pieces stuck together with wild speculation glue (and that last part is all wild speculation), so feel free to comment/tear it apart! Also, I'm not quite sure how to format quotes or add spoiler tags (or even if this section uses spoiler tags). Please let me know so I can fix it!