MalcolmR

Occulus you got a point WOK do not say anything about any sprens other then Honorspren in the past. Got to take a look in the book to be sure, going say if I find anything of note, but you can be right, its possible that the normal spren is the result of Honor being splinted while the 10 bonding sprens where "always" there and where created by Honor and Conservation in the "beginning of time". Then again, the suden appearance of spren who'd be noted in their religion. To me it's seems like an event that the people whod have to assign to the almighty. Possible not noted by any of the characters because it just is so why think about it.

In my opinion he did push the parshendi back using stormlight, the wiki note that Honor spren give a person access to atmospheric pressure. What is atmospheric pressure? Well in short its differences in the pressure that the air have on a person at any given place. So why can’t it mean that he have the ability to make a emptiness that drags people to him or more useful in a fight an increase in pressure that blast away from him. I am having trouble using physics to explain it. It’s magic so. But to me the power of atmospheric pressure is logically the ability to make shockwaves. It probably cost a lot of stormlight to do it. As someone noted her it who’d be fun to see a line of windrunners blasting down hundreds of men before carving them up with shardblades.

You misunderstood who I where calling lazy, I meant that if a writer explains away a problem in his book bay saying "magic" he is lacy. So in general I am just hoping that we get a good answer to the questions. And that Sanderson don’t just jump past it. In my experience of him, is far from a lazy writer so I expect that we are going to get the answer at some point. But where hoping someone has it today, and of curse what’s the point of a forum like this if one don’t ask questions. English is far from my first language and I am terrible at writing my first language so I understand how hard it can be to understand me from time to time.

Sorry but I am using logic to magic, that's how I like to test the limits of the magic systems. It’s part of why I love Brandons magic. As its noted in the link that Ookla posted, spren is a part of both conservation and Honor (Sanderson dint say so, but he did note its an possibility), so splintering Honor shod not create sprens that are partly Conservation, unless Conservation gives up more of his power. But the back question is still what happens to Honor's power, because as I understand it splintering it won’t make the power go up into noting, it only splinter's it up into smaller parts so that it can’t get back together again. In the same way as if all ruins power where turned into metal (yes, yes if it get burned he get it back splinters are esuriently a lot harder to put together again). But if there are more of all types of sprens then its evidence that Conservation to are destroyed. If it is more sprens only containing honors essence. Then what type of sprens are these and what can they possible do. The wiki notes that the splinters don’t need to be of the same mindset as the shard it came from. But any spren containing any part of Conservation can’t be creating by splintering Honor. So one could say I am leading up to the question who created the spen, where conservation a part of this, or is only the spheres and stormlight a part of Conservation? The interaction between the spren and the Highstorm points in the other direction (no Highstrom no spren). We know what magic system Ruin and Preservation created. But what part of Roshar’s magic comes from what shard, to me these questions are linked. Ok if all his powers where splintered into so small pieces they are without affect then to me that who'd be boring. Yes it could be but I don’t believe it, and what is the fun in explaining away problems by making them not be a problem because of “magic”, that’s just well lacy.

Hm, but then there are still 3 posibletyes as I see it. 1. Honor invested all his power in the spren so, he killed himself, and all Odium needed to do was kill the shard holder as the shard dint have any power left. If this is true then conservation is close to dead to. unless all spren are very honoreble I can believe this to be true considering hove honorable honor is, he might be capable of giving up all his powers to protect the humans. Stupid but ok, but conservation doing the same to? Don't know much abaout that one so... 2. There are a lot more Honor spren now then earlier. So there are going to be a lot of Windruners. 3. There are another type of spliter that are newly created. So what is this splinter?

I see a lot of people talking about Honorspens in particular as if it's an accepted fact that they are what where left when Odium killed Honor. Is there very good explenation for this? As I see it, spren cant be a slinter of honor beacuse they existed before Honor where killed, I agree with copermind that sprens are a merge of the powers of Honor and Conservation, in place of giving a part of there powers to humans as preservation and ruin did they gave there powers to the spren. so that all magic that humans can use is as a result of spren's giving them access to the shard magic. If Honor spren where a splinter of Honor, then Honor where killed by Odium before the Hearalds gave up there blades. The reason is the Nohadon knew about spren and Honor spren if they where a splinter then Honor where dead, but he where killed somewhere between the day of recreance and today. Can someone explain what it is that I have missed her?