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7 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:
My interpretation of that was she was re-swearing the same (2nd) Oath, but this time to Testament instead of to Pattern. She doesn’t summon the many armorspren that you’d expect from the 4th Oath (though whether those would show up in Shadesmar would be an unknown question, I suppose).
Shallan’s Oaths are weird, though. Hard to tell what’s going on with her.
Good point! I hadn't thought of that; that makes way more sense.
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Hello and welcome to the Shard!
If you could have any Cosmere character to be your room mate, who would you choose and why?
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While I mostly disagree, I did think Shallan swearing her next oath so soon after Veil re-incorporated felt a little rushed.
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Hmm... I hadn't thought of that. Syl is as hilarious as ever, though, and I'm honestly a bit excited!
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I don't think I've ever thought about this before. I just... read.
I do know that I dislike audiobooks, because audiobook narrators (even the greats like Michael Kramer and Kate Reading) never get the characters' voices right, like I have them in my head. For example, I hate Kate Reading's interpretation of Lift, not because it's bad, but because the Lift I imagine sounds way less whiny and way more me. Often, if I can see myself in a character's position, or really like a character, it's because that character's voice in my head sounds very similar to my own voice. The rest of the time, the characters don't really have voices (love ya, Dalinar, but you're basically just words on a page to me, unlike Lift, Shallan, and Jasnah, who have my voice in my head, but with different intonations).
I do read quite fast, which does mean I occasionally miss details of the story, but I feel like it's the sort of fast that is like eating a bowl of your favorite dessert. Some people savor it, I chow it down as fast as I can because I want to get as much as I can as fast as possible. Ice cream doesn't linger in my bowl, it disappears within a few minutes. Maybe I'm missing part of the experience, but I'm usually so excited to consume the story that I don't care--anything I miss the first time 'round, I can pick up on the rereads.
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2 hours ago, Fullmetalyoyo said:
I just meant that I expect Syladin to end with the same result that we've had with Shalladin (so far). That is, they get a couple of semi romantic moments but ultimately never have an actual romance.
I'll probably be happy with however it goes as long as Syl doesn't die. Mine and Kaladin's emotional state would be permanently wrecked.
Ah, I see. Sorry for misunderstanding; it's been a long day. Thanks for clarifying!
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42 minutes ago, Fullmetalyoyo said:
I think there are definitely hints here, but I see it going the way of Shalladin. I just don't see Brandon taking it all the way due to how careful he is about representation. Syl is so tied up in Kaladin's struggle with depression and suicidality that I think Brandon will be very wary of people over simplifying the message to "if you're depressed just get a girlfriend".
I think you're right about the representation aspect, but I'm not sure about Shalladin. Shallan is already married, after all. Then again, if Adolin were to die...
But even then I'm not sure it would work. There may be other plans for Kaladin and Syl.
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1 hour ago, listerfeend said:
Another thing to note on this topic is that, in real world D.I.D. cases, each "personality" is more or less difficult to "merge" anyway, at least from what I can gather from relevant media. I'm not a doctor or anything like that, but I don't think that Radiant sticking around, or being more or less difficult to incorporate into the main personality gives much weight to Radiant being something more than Veil was.
I think you're right. I also think that if Brandon wanted to put more emphasis on Radiant this way for writing reasons (AKA readers who don't know much about DID and would instinctively assign plot-relevance where it doesn't belong [like me, hi]), there are ways to handle it that might be a little plot-convenient, but otherwise not a huge issue.
At the same time, if the "Chana-is-Shallan's-Mom" theory is accurate, Radiant might not be any more than Veil was--both are disguising truths so Shallan can function, and even if one truth is vastly more world-impacting than the other, why would the shield-personalities function all that differently from one another? They serve the same essential purpose of disguising the past for Shallan's benefit. If that can be made clear in the text, then Radiant being harder to merge then becomes a part of Shallan's DID, allowing Brandon to stay true to how things actually work like you've said.
Finally, I also feel like I've heard (read?) someone mention Brandon saying that Radiant might not merge, and that Shallan may "hang on" (for lack of a better term) to that identity semi-permanently to permanently. (If there's a WoB for this, I'm not sure how best to go about finding it because I don't often theorize.) Whether this means Shallan won't complete her oaths or that Radiant is, indeed, something different than Veil, I have no idea.
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I got my black belt in a nontraditional style called Bushi Kai, then did a few months of more traditional Shotokan, and then moved on to Irish dance, and now am doing parkour. So far, they've all been pretty cool. (Shrug)
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Ah, thank you. A summons was just what I wanted on this fine day.
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54 minutes ago, J. Magi said:
(I'm so tired of cookie discourse at this point . . .)
Me too. But it is a good running gag...
Hello and welcome, @Cerulean! If you could have any Cosmere character (that you know of) to be your room mate, who would you choose and why?
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I put fairly rated because I had to take an average between the two:
I think Harry Potter is overrated. I've read the books, I've seen the movies. I just don't like it that much. I'd say the best movie is #3, and as for best book? Don't really have strong opinions about them.
I think Lord of the Rings is underrated. I've only read it once, and will probably not read it again for quite a long time, because it is very slow, but it inspired (what I think is) the best set of films to exist, and the worldbuilding is deeper than probably any other worldbuilding to exist, and the female characters are just about the coolest female characters I think I've ever read. (Eowyn, anybody? Awesome in the movies, of course... but still absolutely fantastic in the book! I dreamed of being her when I was a kid watching the movies.)
All my opinions, of course. No judgment if you hate LoTR and love Harry Potter.
Or, well... maybe a little judgment. But not enough to affect my opinions of you.
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On 7/27/2024 at 4:30 PM, BlueWildRye said:
The story of Jesus and his disciples, but Jesus is an edgy amoral thief and the disciples successfully bring down the Roman Empire after he dies.
Mistborn, naturally.
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On 8/10/2024 at 9:26 PM, Null_84 said:
Uhhh I’m like, super new to this whole thing, my gf suggested mistborn to me, so I’m just kinda entering here, but i figured I’d join this just to kinda see what’s happening and stuff
Welcome, welcome! Glad to have you amongst us!
To add to the pineapple/pizza discussion, I've never seriously tried pineapple on pizza, but I think I'd like it if it was my mom's homemade pizza. Pizza from a pizza place... I mean, it's fine, but it doesn't top homemade.
Now for the serious question. (
) If you could have any Cosmere character (that you know of, since you've only read Mistborn so far) to be your college room-mate, who would you choose and why?
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3 hours ago, The Stormfather said:
I imagine you as a hamster
Oh, good!
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On 8/10/2024 at 1:35 AM, Just a Silvereye said:
Slightly round face, short black hair, shorter in size, blue eyes, big smile on your face.
How do you imagine me?
I imagine you as a silver fish. I guess "Silvereye" sounded like the name of a fish species in my brain.
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4 hours ago, The Stormfather said:
I checked, urithiru is too tall even starting all the way down at bedrock.
A flight of dragons.
cool!(What have I gotten myself into…)
Leave it to Brandon to invent something that can't even be replicated in Minecraft!
You may have gotten yourself into some seriously huge building assignments.
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Build a to-scale Minecraft Urithiru. (Just kidding. That, I think, would be a project of unusual size even for someone on the Hermitcraft server, and may not even be possible with the current build height limit.)
More seriously, I think it'd be super cool if you could build a flight of dragons.
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36 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:
Did you not read slm? That theory has been disproven
I did, but I've only read it once and can only remember so much at a time.
Also, I was a bit busy having my breath taken away by the artwork...
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On 8/2/2024 at 10:18 PM, Through The Living Glass said:
I'm on PC and have the update, but I haven't gone to the Desert Festival yet. Mostly because the Skull Cavern is the last place in the game that can give me an adrenaline rush. (I finished most of Ginger Island before I entered Skull Cavern seriously, even though most people seem to think it's a tougher challenge. It's not. Not really. And the music is better. [I'm using intentionally oblique phrasing to avoid spoiling the endgame to anyone who hasn't made it yet, sorry if it's weird.])
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5 hours ago, Duxredux said:
So... this touches on some tricky IRL topics that need sensitive handling. The question of heritable disease can be troubling for some. I've known people who were distraught that their child inherited the same heart disease that was in the process of killing them and did eventually kill them. Mental illness can have a genetic component that affects a child's likelihood of developing a similar illness to a parent in IRL. Depression for example tends to run in families. However there is an accompanying complication where mental disorders might develop simply because the children suffered in an abusive environment. With the Davar children, there seems to be a possibility of mundane heritable genetic illness, sDNA heritage which feels poorly understood at this point, an Unmade wrecking their home, and abuse in the Davar home in general. Because of this, I wouldn't use the Davar family as evidence that Spiritweb damage is heritable simply because the abuse could lead to the disorders and trauma by itself, nor would I know the degree that it affected the likelihood of developing their disorders. There's too many complicating factors, but Shallan certainly doesn't need an inherited damaged Spiritweb to be thoroughly traumatized by killing both her parents as a small girl on top of the abuse she experienced and witnessed.
Greater Cosmere spoilers
We know that there are magics inherited. Yes, certain things will be heritable, burning Lerasium will change the Spiritweb and the change is heritable by progeny. Without a lot more information though, knowing that it happens is a far cry from establishing it as a causal root of Shallan's mental illness.
I do want to note that inheritable diseases aren't always inherited. I know someone who does research into the genome and how certain genes can be turned on or off based on environmental stimuli; just because someone has a genetic predisposition for an illness doesn't mean they'll contract it, because if their environment has the correct stimuli (or lacks the "dangerous" ones), those genes won't get turned on.
But that's all I know. I don't really understand how it works; just the basic concept of it.
Who knows, though? Maybe Spiritwebs work in a similar way--if Shallan did get some of her quirks by inheriting Spiritweb shenanigans from a Heraldic parent, maybe the tells wouldn't have shown up if she'd been raised in a different environment.
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What is this fabrial?! Strange projectile Lashing device!
WWRTO cows?
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Ah, but horses are hard to get on Roshar. They need certain food that doesn't grow abundantly outside of Shinovar, they can be quite skittish and wouldn't respond well to highstorms, and would generally be a pain to transport from Shinovar to Alethkar. I assume that much of the cost would be from the difficulties of transport. I think 10k emerald broams seems less overpriced when you take that into account--you have the cost of the animal itself, then whatever the merchant had to expend to keep it alive, then the merchant's profit that lets him keep operating. Is it still incredibly expensive? Yes. But is it totally unreasonable? I don't believe so.
Plus, even in our world, where we don't have so many issues caring for horses, a really quality horse like you'd want for battle (or in our day, racing) can sell for many thousands or even into the millions of dollars. And I assume that the only horses rich men on the Shattered Plains would want would be the quality ones.
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5 hours ago, Sophiee said:
that’s so interesting!
I think i might tend to ignore some character descriptions on accident since i’ve always imagined Jasnah being both straighter hair, maybe a bit wavy.
I had no idea this topic would actually have substance behind it (i though it was just different interpretations of what a “natural curl” was)
You all have so much insight
I am likewise surprised. I've always imagined Jasnah as looking very like Princess Jasmine from the live-action Aladdin Disney put out a few years ago, only more mature and put-together.
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I intentionally avoid dedicated romance, because I find romance tropes inherently distasteful. In that way, I think Sanderson does romance better than most other authors I've read (except for Shannon Hale in The Books of Bayern and Jill Bearup with Just Stab Me Now). Now, how much of that is a result of having watched far too many Hallmark movies against my will, I don't know, so objectively you may be right about him not being the best at romance, but subjectively from my point of view, he does a pretty effective job (I love the relationships between Vin and Elend, Siri and Susebron, and Shallan and Adolin! Yumi and Painter are no slouches, either, but I do find their relationship a little more teenager-y and cringe. Not crazy so, but their story definitely carries more of the typical romance tropes.).
Of course, it's possible that I just dislike romance tropes, and so I might dislike "good" or "great" romances sheerly because of that. (shrug)