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13 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

Nice WoB! I'd say that taking up to four powers is going the practical limit of normal Hemalurgy, since you'd need to place the spike in certain locations on your own Spiritweb to hotwire them to functionality.

In essence, you'd need to spike out a quadrant of powers that all have the same corresponding Bindpoints when stapled onto your own Spiritweb- otherwise only some of the powers would actually work.

Actually, with Atium acting as a universal Key, you might be able to take eight to sixteen instead (eight for physical Allomancy and Feruchemy, eight for mental Allomancy and Cognitive Feruchemy, and sixteen for temporal Allomantic, enhancement Allomantic, hybrid Feruchemical and spiritual Feruchemical powers) so long as the Bindpoints they need to be wired to are interchangeable.

The other problem you'd need to content with is Identity contamination though, which means you'd either need a way to overcome that or you'd need to spike a Mistborn and/or Full Feruchemist.

So it's theoretically possible with three spikes to take and use all Metallic Art powers, but for our purposes here we're trying to use confirmed Hemalurgic practices to make a champion, so one regular power per spike.

ok   too bad though

2 hours ago, alder24 said:

I'm not sure about this one. You don't need to move to store speed in Steelmind, you can just sit. Pewter makes you run faster, yes, but that doesn't mean you can store more speed. Sitting doesn't make you store less speed than running so I think burning pewter might not give you more speed to store. But on the other hand A-pewter makes you generally faster and increases your reaction speed, so maybe.

 

Brandon Sanderson has said that you can store A-pewter strength in a pewtermind and A-pewter dose not just speed up your running it speeds up your whole body eg: vin says in TFE(don't remember where) that she cant burn pewter at the balls because the increased speed of movment and reaction time would give her away so you should be able to store pewter speed in a steelmind

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Well, a three-spike build is actually just below the threshold it takes to be able to mind-control someone (hence the reason I chose that number when establishing the guidelines of this thread). They need four or more spikes to be cracked open enough to be vulnerable to that level of influence.

Yeah but kandra can be controled with duralumin allomancy and they only have two spikes they have three and soothing in a bendalloy bubble is similar to duralumin so enough duralumin bursts fast enough will be insanely strong and probably enough to control you (Also how much metal are we assuming they have (in burntime) and what about feruchemy(at a 1:1 ratio)?)

if Im fighting your people I choose A-bendalloy A-brass and A-duraluminum I could probably mind control you at that point also give me a gallon of metals and I would drink the metals as fast as I could duraluminum them

3 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

Yeah, main problem is a lack of ranged options, so your champion's build is decent counter to mine's. Then it'd turn into a contest of 'Who will run out of metals first?' since my champion could still avoid everything your champion could throw at him. But Pewter Burns really fast even without F-Steel soooo... Yeah it'd probably be your victory by endurance.

A valid option, but in my opinion the best way to take a hit is to not take it at all. Plus A-Chromium effectively counters most types of magic if you can touch them, and with this build you absolutely could. Unless you're up against a flyer, in which case you're out of luck.

if its a coinshot just move the coin other wise throw a rock your strong enough that it will kill them

maybe if you had two twinborn a A-bendalloy + F-brass and a brass compounder for example: Bendalloy dude makes bubble compounder burns maybe flares brass metalminds, bendalloy dude stores heat to survive when bubble drops small explosion maybe add a A-nicrosil + F-brass for grater efect just have compounder swallow more brass and burn again

all the really funny ones(eg: lopen, hoid, wane) other than that none in particular forgot to mention that Im currently reading alloy of law 

Hi I'm new obviously I've only read the first mistborn and one through four of stormlight but I read all the spoilers anyway.

there is a wob that I cannot find that says if you know what you were doing you could spike out multiple abilitys at once so assuming that we know the right bindpoints for our spikes I would have three atium spikes two granting mistborn abilities(for extra strength) one granting full feruchemy now Im almost a fullborn just with out compunding still op tho 

edit: this wob is close enough

Kythis

When you spike somebody, say a full Mistborn, with a steel spike, it could end up with four different charges.  Does it get all four of them it just depends on where you place it?  

Brandon Sanderson

Where you place it it can get all four.  Spiking a full Mistborn wastes a lot of power and the way that it's known, I mean, it doesn't have to, but the way that it's known to do it right now.

What about a kandra that had feruchemical health while they stored they could probably replenish their immune system using shape-shifting to negate the negative side effects and then it could have nearly infinite health stored up I think that would be really cool and they could be constantly storing help and maybe not even need it except for in like acid situations they could escape from Acid that way because they storing fixing it with their shape-shifting they might need to eat more but easy to solve and then when like they got attacked by acid or burned they could tap helth and be fine 

maybe me to? not sure

I will join because compounding + f-Tin medallion + elsecalling = infinite of all the senses in the cosmere!

8 hours ago, therunner said:

I think this is partially there, in that I think you cannot Compound unkeyed metalminds, but removing Identity is important step.

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Kurkistan

Could an Augur Compound Health out of a goldmind if its proper owner messed with Identity in the right way?

Brandon Sanderson

This is possible

General Signed Books 2014 (Jan. 22, 2014)

 

you can compound unsealed metalminds.

steel for it all unless I have an f-tin medallion and then i would have tin compounding and travel the cosmere collecting senses. no sneaking up on me I can sense you all the different ways.

Coinshot! 

PS: some one should make a ferring and twinborn quiz.

I think you could store up a bunch of electrum and then tap all that determination all at once and then you could like use it to enter a battle rage lots of the general and sort of state or like you're being fuel on like basically only adrenaline and it would be sort of like a koloss blood lust and you'd be able to like take a little more damage than normal and just plow through everybody until you physically couldn't keep fighting cuz your body is too chopped up and then you die so it would be useful for a little bit but then you die afterwards but you could be a total psychopath and kill everybody mode for a little and they wouldn't be able to stop you however if you can find it with pewter or electrum you might be able to do more with it, pewter could increase your endurance and make your body tougher so you might still survive afterwards and electrum you might be able to train your body to automatically react to the to the electrum Shadows so that you just would instinctively do it and then you'd be a really hard to hit because you would just instinctively Dodge although it might not work like that because the determination might tunnel vision you and then you'd be like one thing and that's like all you could do but maybe if you trained your mind hard enough you could succeed or if you burned atium instead of electrum then it would have a little magical compulsion to dodge plus you could train yourself to dodge anyways however it'd be more useful to use electrum because then you could compound and get more determination more easily without having to feel depressed 

ok

1 hour ago, Frustration said:

This thread has been dead for over a year.

so?

On 6/21/2022 at 3:13 PM, cometaryorbit said:

I think the only difference we've seen is that now its Harmony rather than Ruin that can talk to or control spiked people.

no compounding with hemalurgy now, 4 spike limit too

what about making a bubble your not in

tie until mistborn runs out of metal thread just proves their even and force is unlimited with chance and other things sometimes creating other results

On 12/11/2022 at 0:22 PM, Frustration said:

Why you wouldn't be flaring pewter the entire time is my question. You won't run out before the fight is over, and there's no downside other than the increased burn rate. And you would never want to turn your pewter off.

in the final empire ham tells vin about this and how it does not work like that, go read it.

steel on every thing I can fly, run fast and both at the same time shoot coins so fun!

On 1/13/2023 at 8:42 PM, cometaryorbit said:

I don't think anything she does requires speed above say 80-100mph.

you cant create vacuums by going 100 mph or our world would not work going the speed of sound dose not. create vacuums she would have to be going at least 7 times the speed of sound:So 2000 m/s, 2 km/s, 7200 km/hr should do the trick. For reference this is about 7 times the speed of sound at sea level     sorry misunderstood you your probably right

I think that if you had a gold and F aluminum you could store your entire identity in your aluminum mind while Burning Gold and then since your identity would be gone you could absorb the entire identity of your gold Shadow which would probably be the same as your normal gold Shadow because you're still you technically or once you had a shadow you could store identity and then you could fully become the other you personally I think would be pretty interesting 

On 4/30/2023 at 1:31 PM, Koloss17 said:

Y’know, I’m starting to think the F-Electrum isn’t the most useful of metals. Dare I say-the worst Feruchemantic metal? Maybe there’s something big about it that I’m missing. Maybe I am seriously undervaluing the power of determination (I’m sorry Frisk, but it ain’t what you make it to be). But to me, it seems to be quite the niche ability. Let me know what you think!

I think you could store up a bunch of electrum and then tap all that determination all at once and then you could like use it to enter a battle rage lots of the general and sort of state or like you're being fuel on like basically only adrenaline and it would be sort of like a koloss blood lust and you'd be able to like take a little more damage than normal and just plow through everybody until you physically couldn't keep fighting cuz your body is too chopped up and then you die so it would be useful for a little bit but then you die afterwards but you could be a total psychopath and kill everybody mode for a little and they wouldn't be able to stop you however if you can find it with pewter or electrum you might be able to do more with it, pewter could increase your endurance and make your body tougher so you might still survive afterwards and electrum you might be able to train your body to automatically react to the to the electrum Shadows so that you just would instinctively do it and then you'd be a really hard to hit because you would just instinctively Dodge although it might not work like that because the determination might tunnel vision you and then you'd be like one thing and that's like all you could do but maybe if you trained your mind hard enough you could succeed or if you burned atium instead of electrum then it would have a little magical compulsion to dodge plus you could train yourself to dodge anyways however it'd be more useful to use electrum because then you could compound and get more determination more easily without having to feel depressed still a little niche but better