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I read it as him being close to his fourth ideal, but it was also a real do or die situation, could have just been a big push. Tbph he didn't have as much baggage going on as many of the radiants. That being said, remember he's the first one we really see using regeneration outside of Kal and he's one of the last from the original group to get to his third ideal. His cousin gets there before him and it's purely because he doesn't realise how he's harming others unintentionally with his behaviour. As I said above, there was a lot of baggage with Kal in particular with the third oath, it seems to be the case for most of the windrunners. None of the windrunners encounter their ideals by themselves, it comes from the journey they take. Kal is *stubborn* and he's the first one to do it in awhile. You can look at him as a windrunner and go "Okay, in order to meet this ideal I need to find someone or something I hate and see how that relates to me and my other ideals". Teft has to deal with the trauma of his actions leading to his family and village's deaths. Lopen just needs to realise that he's hurting people he likes, instead of lightening up the situation like he thinks he is. Also as said above, he took a fairly long time going from ideal 2 - 3

I know, it's why I said considering the age of the post in the first paragraph haha. I think Wax could probably put more than a couple cracks in the armour, his anti-thug gun he has would probably crack plate fairly well considering the force of it. And again, it's been awhile since I reread the books, listened to them recently on audio but you know there's always details missed when doing that. The orders of skybreaker and windrunners seem to be the most known about orders, from a structural standpoint. Szeth's trainers tell him most are only on their third ideal at his time, with a few of the fourth and only one of the fifth. Otherwise, going from Dalinars flashback we do see a few armoured knights, but this may be honour/tanavast vision deliberately selling the idea of the radiants in the visions. The stormfather states this is the case in certain circumstances. Now actually obtaining the armour, like I said seems to vary in difficulty and i'd imagine it isn't always the fourth ideal. Pattern seems a bit loser with when the blade is earned, so i'd imagine it may or may not be easier for lightweavers. Edgedancers i'd say would have an easier time too, as Lift gets her shardblade/stick fairly quickly.We've only got the one dustbringer who has one so could be easy, could be hard, not enough exposure. Jasnah, like I said could simply be made for this, or her order might also be more pragmatic in their approach to shards. I'd still say that the average radiant wouldn't have plate necessarily. Same with how the average mistborn wouldn't have access to Atium or Lerasium. If they do have plate, then depending on the era and the setting I could still see a mistborn possibly winning, but I wouldn't think it overly likely. I am curious what burning the other godmetals (Raysium, Tanavastium(?)) would do though, or if it's possible. I'd assume so, since Autonomy has an affect on Hemalurgy but that's a different topic. It's not as simple as 2+2 = 4, 1+1 = 3, so 4 is bigger than 3 which is what a lot of this article seemed to be way back when

So, a few things to consider here in general that I think are getting overlooked slightly. Also considering the age of the post though, not sure it's well known. Also not sure on spoilers on a post like this so, spoilers spoilers spoilers ahead for Lost Metal and Rythm of War Warning issued Experience doesn't *always* matter in regards to Knights Radiant. We've seen how difficult it is for a knight to earn his plate, a lot of knights never reached the ideal required to earn plate. We only see two knights reach this, one had a relatively easy time earning this, while the other went through a literal nightmare of emotional turmoil to earn his. If we consider the average Knight Radiant gets to the third ideal and stops at that point, shard isn't relevant. Most mistborn tried to keep a bit of Atium on them and use it in a last ditch effort, but it may not even reach this with a third ideal radiant or below. As for plate, a handful of coins with enough force behind them will cause issues, on top of this it could be nails or daggers or whatnots. Likewise, in Lost Metal we learn that Wax did manage to make a small amount of Lerasium and Atium when separating harmonium with Trellium so the metals can exist in this time. We have a WOB that more Lerasium could be made naturally my Harmony but he chooses not to too, and this could likely be done Atium although with big implications for the harmony/disorder dynamic Now, on the *reverse* side of this, we see Shallan get shot in the head with an arrow. And she is pretty blasé about healing that, isn't bothered by it at all by the next chapter. I think it really is a case of whittling down one another. A mistborn would likely outlast a knight radiant, and without plate they're at a a significant disadvantage. But it is a glass canon scenario. One lucky hit or even a thrown blade and a mistborn is dead. As for bows and arrows, we never see knights radiant use these. So I don't see it really being an item here. I also think it's unlikely a mistborn will use nails to throw, but it's been done before so it's not entirely off the table, especially if it's in a city setting