Muffinman31715

The way I see it, the recovery of the deadeyes and the formation of the unoathed don’t have to be connected. I don’t even think the unoathed need to be involved with a shard or anything. After all, stuff was happening with Adolin and Maya in oathbringer way before the recovery of the dead eyes. Even if the unoathed are only possible through ba-ado-mishrams release and somehow she was healing the dead eyes before she was fully free, I don’t see any reason why she or anyone would have to be involved in the formation of the unoathed. There is obviously some kind of bond from how Adolin and Maya can see through each other’s eyes, but it could be something to do with bonding a shardblade, or just something the spren decides to do. I mean, their name implies that they don’t follow anyone/anything, so I could see them as a group without any kind of shard or higher power leading them, just a group that follows their own moral compass. I do think that the freeing of ba-ado-mishram made it easier for that bond to form as the dead eyes are now healed, but I don’t know that she is behind it. You also bring up some good points about how she could be influencing the creation of the unoathed, so I could see how that could be the case as well. However, I do think that if there really is a 4th shard on Roshar, and they are trying to influence things, then it’s likely that they somehow influenced the creation of the unoathed even if they don’t directly facilitate it.

I think valor fits really well, but if there is a shard influencing the unoathed, we can narrow down which shard it would be further. If there is a fourth shard on roshar it needs to be one of the two that taravangian could not find when he ascended to odium, otherwise he would know of it. We know Valor is one of these, and while the other one is not confirmed, it’s likely Reason, as we know they managed to hide well enough that other shards like honor could not find them. I think that reason could also fit the unoathed as well, less for the situation they are in but more for what they stand for. It seems like they could follow reason rather than oaths, deciding what’s best in the moment based on the facts rather than following some decision they made a long time ago without knowing the situations they would face. As for Valor, I think it also fits, however Endowment states that she and Valor are the only shards who maintain some degree of separation. I don’t know if Endowment would consider hiding on a planet with three other shards to be separation, but I could also see it being considered separation if Valor is not purposefully interfering, which we have no evidence of until now. Speaking of interfering, it seems like this 4th shard has not purposefully interfered in anything until now, which is another reason why it could be the shard of Reason, as Brandon has stated that Reason has realized that survival may not be the most important/desirable goal, so it could be that at first it was hiding, but has since decided it needed to do something for some reason and is now interfering through the unoathed. I don’t know, I like the idea that the unoathed are somehow related to the 4th shard, but I think it could be Valor or Reason for different reasons. (Reason is a really annoying shard name to talk about).