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18 minutes ago, Bzhydack said:

Pink crystal wouldnt be Amethyst?

I would associate the crystal with the soulcasting power of diamond, which is crystal and glass. But hey, just a guess on my part. 

I think that the Red Ocean (on the butterfly cup) and the Crimson Ocean (that needs to be crossed to get the the Midnight Ocean) are actually two different oceans. One corresponds to the Ruby Polestone in Soulcasting and the other corresponds to the Garnet Polestone. 

With your assumptions about the gravity of the moons, would we be able to figure out the approximate height of the tide under the moon. I suspect The Rock must be a very tall mountain as it would sit at near the peak of the tidal area under the Verdant Moon. The oceans must then be very full as the low area between moons would be much, much lower. 

I am glad you are talking about the Roche limit. This whole system feels impossible without magic to me. You could solve some problem by changing the gravitation of the moons, like if Kaladan gave them a 1/3 lashing up. This could explain a situation in which the moon pulls on the planet at a different gravitation than the planet pulls on the moon.

Hey Technopathetic, this list is amazing. Thank you for all the work you put into it.

Under foods, Tress gives a meat pie so baked goods are used implying the use of ovens/stoves. Fish is served as a food in the meat pie. 

Under location, we can infer that The Rock is approximately equatorial. The moons in geosynchronous orbit would move North and South throughout the day unless they had equatorial orbits. This is the only way they would hang in the sky above The Rock. If they were at high or low latitude, the moons would show up in their Southern or Northern sky. In addition, because the Lunagri is close by, I assume that the spores fall straightish down from the moon, putting them very close to the equator. 

Also, the "seas" would bunch up under each moon due to strong tidal forces. So the area under each moon would be at a very high tide permanently and the seas would be much shallower between the moons. The Rock must be a very tall mountain to be above that tide. 

Crazy idea. Would the moon above the Midnight Ocean be....The Aether of Night?

I am listening through Tress of the Emerald Sea and would like to put out everything I can find about the magic of this world and hopefully you all noticed more about the magic and we can put it all in one place.

First off, there are 12 geosynchronous moons which must be equatorial or they would move in the sky of the planet compared to land features. So, The Rock (Diggin's Point) must be very near the equator. The moons drop "spores" which fills the low lying areas. "The Sea" is not filled with water, but rather spores. The Verdant Lunagry is about "50 to 60 miles" from The Rock and this makes me suspect that the moon is named something like Verda. Lunagries are the location of each moon's place of pollen/spore drop. The other moons drop spores of different colors including red (a cup in the story has a butterfly flying over a "Red Ocean".  There also mentions of seas that are Emerald, Crimson, and Midnight and are presumably filled from different Lunagies. 

The Verdant Lunagry drops green spores. "Ship's sail that dust like ships sail water", but they are also light enough that they can be blown by the wind. When a ship sets sail, the ocean pushes air up which supports the weight of the ship. The mechanics are very unclear to me. 

"Verdant Spores" are specifically listed as growing plants when exposed to water. I suspect the other Lunagries drop spores with a different magical effect along with their different color. When Verdant Spores are exposed to water, they suddenly and explosively grow plants and vines. You can use salt or silver to prevent this from happening. The Rock has a salty aquafer which has wells in it and the salty water protects against the effects of the Verdant Spores. Gray spores are "dead" and do not explode to life when exposed to water. 

The ocean is filled with spores and not water, but there are "fish" and "elephant seal" so there must be life in the ocean as the residents are not allowed to leave The Rock but are familiar with these things. 

There is a similarity to Nalthis in the the spores fade from colorful to gray. 

There is a similarity to Taldain as the magic falls from the sky and reacts with water like the White Sand. 

There is a similarity with Roshar in that "Emerald" spores cause life to grow much like emeralds do on Roshar. This should offer hints at what the other Lunagries spores would do. Roshar has ten poles stones and this planet has twelve moons, so there will be two additional colors beyond what is shown on Roshar. 

Please help clarify what else we know.

Thanks,

Chip

I hate Brandon so much.

Also, I can't wait for the novels. 

Yeah. My heart dropped a little when I saw it. Hopefully it is just a 'Stormlight will need them be delayed' message and nothing more serious. 

4 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said:

You know what, that genuinely didn't cross my mind. Probably because I assumed they (she and her family) would've checked when she was younger to see if she was able to burn copper. But maybe she didn't Snap until after that?

I feel like snapping has changed after the events of the Catasandra (sp?). But it may only be from hearing episodes of Shardcast. I don't think it is written into any of the Wax and Wayne books. Wouldn't it be juicy if she was an unsnapped Mistborn?

56 minutes ago, AquaRegia said:

Just finished a reread of MB2 and nothing comes to mind that would disprove this.  While I dislike the idea that every important character needs to end up with magic powers (I feel the same way about the Stormlight Archives), it certainly doesn't seem impossible.

If Steris is an Allomancer and is aware of it, I feel like it would be out of character for her to lie directly to Wax about it, or even keep it a secret from him.  However, if she DOESN'T know... it could be a tasty SanderTwist™ for her Allomantic ability to suddenly be revealed to all of us - readers and characters alike - in TLM.

First off, I love the name AquaRegia. I am having good chemistry flashbacks. 

I don't know that she ever tells Wax she is not an Allomancer. It is Marisi who says that she is not an Allomancer. That said, she has a lot of viewpoints, so it would be a little weird never to bring it up to herself.  

Also, do we know if Steris could block steelsight with a copper cloud? She showed up to the party with a gun on her thigh and didn't seem worried about a lurcher or coinshot seeing it. Wax never noticed a large metal source on her leg. Would copper explain that?

I am listening to the Bands of Mourning and I have been wondering if Steris is a misting. She could be an Aluminum or Duralumin Gnat. But I am realizing how often Steris tries to stay close to Wax in dangerous situations. I assumed it was as she explained, that she was safest near him. What if she is a copper misting and she is trying to protect him by hiding him from seekers?

When they are walking around the party in New Seran, it was when Wax left her and used steel that the seeker in the party found him, not before then. This would also explain why the Set tried to abduct her (in addition to her heritage). She is secretive in her own way, so she might even keep this secret from Wax and Marisi. 

I am reading the rest of the book and will look for more hints that she is using copper.

11 minutes ago, Ixthos said:

That gives me an idea for a kingdom inspired by Shara in the Wheel of Time, where every few years one monarch dies and someone else marries the surviving one, then a few years later the next one is replaced and so on - so a world where the marriage connection is taken using connection abilities to pass to someone else who marries the current monarch, a connection passed from spouse to spouse and so they claim each royal pair possesses the original marriage from the first royal pair. The ship of Theseus as a wedding.

It would only be plausible if somehow the legitimacy passes with the connection. 

I have simpler dreams. Imagine the Dalinar Divorce Service. Don't divorce, just pay Dalinar to make your fling into your Spouse. Just 10 Emerald Bromes. 

Of course, the Honor's Shard may find this distasteful. 

3 minutes ago, Ixthos said:

Next step, a wedding where two people are suddenly married before either knows what is happening, and a wedding where one of them is veiled and the other only find out afterwards they married the wrong person (Siri and Susebron don't count).

I have wondered if Dalinar could take the connection of marriage from one person and give it to another. Could Dalinar make Susebron be married to Vivenna? Then your plan could almost come true. 

8 minutes ago, Tani said:

What about Siri and Susebron's wedding?

Ah, yes. Forgot about that one. The wrong bride even came to that one. 

I am relistening to the Wax and Wayne series and Brandon has it out for Weddings. 

Vin and Ellend got married while her chest was being stitched up.

Roial and Sarene had a fake shaod happen at their wedding

Dalinar and Navani were married by the Stormfather

Adolin and Shallan....just a normal wedding. Except they should have had Pattern give them permission to mate...like a good chaperone. 

And Wax and Steris had a water tower flood their wedding. 

Brandon does not believe in an easy wedding. 

I am listening through the Wax and Wayne series and noticed how obsessed Bleeder is with freedom. She talks about it constantly. Assuming Trell is an Avatar of Autonomy, then freedom would make sense as an obsession for the Decay of Power Shard. So maybe Autonomy would fit better in that position. 

I'll giver it a shot. 

Ba-Ado-Mishram is found and released which frees the Singers in some way. It also wakes all of the dead-eyes, including Maya making Adolin an Edgedancer, once he swears the Oath. Someone becomes the Nightwatcher's Bondsmith (Rushu?). Dalinar takes on Odium's Champion (possibly El or Nail) though I would love for the fight to be between Kaladin and Moash. Honor's Champion is nearly killed, but Vasher jumps in and gives him his Divine Breath, restoring him and allowing him to defeat Odium's Champion. 

Of course, Brandon will make something more epic, but this sound pretty sweet to me. I worry that Dalinar will lose and become Odium's for the rest of the Cosmere. That sounds terrifying. 

Chip

With Adonalsium probably being a sapient being and we know one Danshard was Change, maybe they represent fundamental structures that even God was bound to. I have a theory that the Dawnshards are Change, Connection, Identity, and Power as you can put all of the known Shards under these catagories. 

Chip

What if it is more of a table like this.

I wonder if you would have to change the Stormlight to Preservation's tone. Life light and Voidlight have similar effects (but not the same effects) as Stormlight, but they are both invested Rosharin lights/tones. I suspect you would need to convert it to Preservations power. 

I am increasingly thinking that the hypothetical Wisdom could be a Transformation of Connection or Transformation of Identity. It feels like Wisdom would be in the Transformation Row. 

4 hours ago, Bzhydack said:

I would probably swap Mercy and Endovment, but all in all this is very refreshing approche, and I like it so much! Probably the most from all othher groupings.

So, you would say Mercy is Transformation of Connection and Endowment is Decay of Power.. I can see that. Mercy makes a lot of sense there. 

 I wish we have a true description of Endowment. Nalthis has a whole book and yet only minimal explanation of Endowment. It makes her so hard to place.