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Thanks! Moash!! F that guy! I was going to say Shallan but only in the first two books. I like her character and her writing a lot better now. What about you?

Damn, there is nearly a WoB for everything, isn't there? Now, I'm pretty sure I remember a scene from Hero of Ages where one of the Ashmounts literally explodes engulfing a city as Ironeyes leaves the region in his search for the Atium. I'm just being annoying. To be serious though, Ruin did drastically hasten destruction once freed and continued to destroy the regions with the Ashmounts once he was sure the Atium was not present. It's a fun tangent. From Secret History, we see his limitations holding Preservation, which is most likely due to him being dead but probably related to misplaced Intent as well. Ruin admits that Kelsier is more an aspect of him. I agree with your theory here. I definitely think Honor splintered himself or dispersed his powers into humans somehow, perhaps through bonded spren? Or as an emulsifier to allow the bond? If all humans literally contained Splinters of Honor, and if a certain someone could unite all the humans of Roshar under one banner or perhaps one Intent... Also, Honor was going a bit kookoo near the end, right? Maybe spreading himself too thin? Shardblades are partly made of Honor's metal, is that metal source infinite?

Thanks! Great to be here! Drat, you're right. I was very emotional during that scene and missed that =p I'm actually just trying to describe the different Investitures within the Scadrial system; the powers of the Shards in relation to each-other, not in terms of the Cosmere as a whole. To be fair, Brandon did say this terminology is a bit iffy even in terms of Scadrial. I thought it would be a simple way to get my point across. Sick quote, good find, great points! Sja-anat can corrupt spren with Odiums Investiture. So if she corrupted an Honor Spren or a Cultivation Spren... Yeah, it's probably more based on Intent now that I'm thinking. Looking back at Sazed through Era 1, I would argue that he started his journey with the Intent of Preservation, but then ventured down a darker path after losing Tindwyl. He was in a bad place after that, lingering in the mindset of someone closer Ruin? Hmm... Yeah, you're probably right. Brandon usually shoots for the more subtle and unexpected. Would love to see powers evenly distributed over Roshar. lol, love this Honestly, I'm leaning towards #SplinterAllShards as well. I wonder if combining all Investitures into a single item/essence would give the wielder some sort of power over a Shard. I wonder if any metal can be brought during Ascension. Maybe it's just Invested stuff that needs to be left behind. What was Fuzz's knife made out of? Fuzz's knife was described as having a bone handle. Makes me think about Warbreaker and BioChromatic Breath; it was always easier to animate bones and objects that resembled parts right? I don't know where I'm going with this...

Right on, thanks!

Hello everybody, I'm a newbie to the forums and want to share in on some fan theories and cool Cosmere discussions. I was recently listening to a great podcast, Cosmere Conversations, and it got me thinking... Shard Carry-Ons When beings seize the power of the Shards and ascend to become Vessels, their immediate belongings like clothing and weapons accompany them into some pocket dimension or into the Spiritual Realm. Leras had a knife on him during Secret History. Rayse, Leras, Ati, and Vin materialize with their original clothing once they died. Sazed ascended with his metalminds and was even able to access them. I was incorrect. He tapped them just before ascending and they dropped to the ground. Thanks @LewsTherinTelescope! So, what other carry-on luggage can you bring along on the ride to godhood? Shardblade/Shardplate? Bonded spren/Unmade? Nightblood? Hemalurgic spikes? God metals/Essences? Pancakes? Anti-Light? Restrictions & Resistance So are there any restrictions? Could Investiture or Connection play a role? We see that Vin was unable to ascend until she removed her earring (hemalurgic spike). But Sazed was able to ascend with his heavily Invested metalminds. Perhaps the flavor of Investiture is key? Vin could not seize the power of Preservation (end-positive) because she was holding the power of Ruin (end-negative). Sazed was able to seize the power of both Preservation and Ruin along with his metalminds because Feruchemy is of both Preservation and Ruin (end-neutral)! I'm not sure if there is a connection with Connection here (at least in the relationship between the Invested items and the Shard), since Vin and Sazed would be very Connected with their respective items. Regarding Nightblood near the end of RoW, it's possible (but not explicitly stated) that the sword could have fallen away or out of Taravangian's grasp before he ascended. I don't think Taravangian would have been able to ascend with Nightblood in hand anyway...but perhaps if there was a similar scenario with Endowment instead of Odium... My hypothesis so far based on observations: Attempting to seize the power of a Shard while holding the Investiture of another Shard will be met with resistance. Shard Merging Is Harder Than It Looks We have witnessed only a single Shard merger and it was as easy as picking up the power of both Shards at the same time, right? But could this have been accomplished under different circumstances? Remember the profound resistance that Vin (as Preservation) experiences when trying to attack Ruin? Almost like opposite pushing the same ends of a magnet together. She eventually does attack him in full force, but kills them both in the process - no merging takes place. Did the end-neutral nature of Sazed's Invested metalminds act as a catalyst for the merge? What if he was instead an Allomancer or was spiked or didn't have any relevant Investiture at all? Could a spiked Allomancer take and merge both Shards? I know there is a lot of intentional poetic symbology in Mistborn (Ruin + Preservation = Harmony), but perhaps balance is exactly what's needed for any successful Shard merger. Balanced Investiture We are introduced to balanced or stabilized Investiture combinations in the form of Shardblades (Honor metal + Cultivation metal), Towerlight (Stormlight + Cultivation light), and Warlight (Stormlight + Voidlight). I have a sneaking suspicion that these discoveries in Investiture will have profound importance if these Shards are ever going to merge. We will probably see Navani experimenting with combining all three lights in the next book. Considering Raboniel's doubtful comment on the amount of Anti-Light it would take to destroy Odium, I don't think this path would be pursued. Revised hypothesis: Attempting to seize the power of a Shard will be met with resistance while holding the Investiture of another Shard. Merging multiple Shards will be met with resistance unless holding the combined Investiture of these Shards. Now Some Hot Takes Navani becomes/creates the catalyst to merge Honor, Cultivation, and damnation, maybe even Odium! Hoid has been collecting bits and pieces of Investiture all over the Cosmere. What if he possessed a small bit of Investiture from each Shard and was able to become a Vessel with all these on his person? Would this create a mini-Adonalsium? A "Shard" that isn't actually bound by any singular Intent and has more agency? I don't know but I wanna believe! Sorry for the long rant. Please, share with me your thoughts on all this! Has anyone else here posted some similar nonsense?

haha exactly!

Would anyone know if there is a schedule posted for AMAs with Brandon?

Great, thanks!

What about Cosmere-wide spoilers?

@Bejardin1250, thanks! Favorite non-cosmere would be His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman. You? @Szeth_Pancakes, so many to choose from! I'm going to go with Wax. What about you? By the way, if I wanted to make a fan theory discussion with spoilers, where would I post it?

Hey there, just wondering if there's an actual schedule of YouTube AMAs, or similar AMAs available?

Hi there, just joined the party to discuss these awesome books. Also want to jump in and share crazy fan theories! Cheers