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8 hours ago, Isilel said:

Personally, I can't wait to learn what harmonium alloys can do and am slightly annoyed that there has seemingly been no progress in researching them between BoM and TLM. They are going to provide 16 new allomantic metals, or however many turn out not to explode on contact with water. As to their powers, I can't even speculate.

It should be actually 30 metals, because 16 for Harmonium and another 14 for Atium (since we already know what 2 Atium alloys do)

39 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

Probably Silverlight, since they seem to be a powerful faction in this Cosmere-wide conflicts. They've even set up rules of conduct based on stuff brought up in The Sunlit Man, with the Scadrian Scientists needing to follow the rule of not being obligated to interfere with events on Canticle. It was said to be part of the Silverlight Accords or something like that.

So Silverlight is likely where Dusk is heading, then he'll probably be swamped with dumb politicking and all that. Scholars would probably be more interested since getting to First of the Sun is pretty difficult. Maybe we'll see Khriss.

Maybe even those Accords will be signed because of Dusk? Maybe we will see this exact action.

On 4/1/2024 at 11:20 PM, Hoids4thApprentice said:

My first thought was that Patji (the Avatar of Autonomy who replies to Hoids in one of the letters) was the dead god. The fact that the ones abve laughed when Vathi talked about being able to withstand the challanges of difficult masters made me think they thought or knew Patji was no longer a factor. Either that Patji the individual Avatar gets destroys within the events of the Ghostblood trilogy (Mistborn era 3) or that Autonomy iteslf is splintered as a reult of the events of that trilogy. 

Maybe Patji is not dead god, but still is wierd to me that Autonomy or Taldain is not mention at all. Taldain supose to be one of more important forces in Cosmere and now we dont have anything about them. Is she dead? She chalanged Sazed and lost? Maybe this is what triggered Scadrian Expansion? Maybe Scadrian - Taldain all out war was first (First Cosmere War?) and Scadrial won.

Second thing. I dont think we get other planets, maybe Dhatri, but I think we will see Silverlight at last. There are only few forces in Cosmere where Dusk can go for help. Yolen is one. Dhatri (and other Aether worlds) is second. Sel is third. Taldain is forth (if still exists). Nalthis is fifth. And Silverlight is another. And Silverlight is in Shadesmar, as main comunication center. So I hope for Silverlight.

5 hours ago, alder24 said:

I would because there are no raccoons in Poland. Here we have families of boars just strolling around towns (they even use pedestrian crossings).

They actually are  Never saw one, but I know population of racoons is rising in Europe, in Poland too, they are very nasty invasive species.

Spiking bugs could work very well. But I think ants would be better - they are able to much more complicated actions, and are less likely to be seen - because they dont generate sound.

Rats are also good idea, we can also go for some unsuspicious bird, like pigeon, crow or magpie (or parrot in proper climate. But they are invasive species in Europe too).

48 minutes ago, LabRat said:

The only Investiture I can think of that would be "Special Investiture" would be anti-investiture.  I originally thought off-world Investiture, but we know the Rosharan made a normal, small Sunheart so it can't be that

It kinda can. Offworld souls are still thr same souls, even without that additional Investiture (wonder how good sunhearts would Nalthians made) as other humans. But other Investiture, more pure than souls, will give other effect.

My bet is on Voidlight - relativly easy to obtain and Charred seems to be really charged with hatred.

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Sitting was too easy. And that made it hard.
Head tipped back. Eyes closed. Breathing even. It let Nomad hear the small sounds: the persistent, ubiquitous—yet oft inaudible—sounds of life. Fingers tapping on touchpads. The deep, musical voice of the ship’s Awakened Steelmind giving a status report. People chuckling softly—the aftershocks of a joke that had been too quiet for him to hear.

This one get my attention. Mainly:

Why Steelmind? From feruchemical properties, I would suspect that best metalmind for using as computers woild be either Copperminds (memory storage) or Zincminds (mental speed storage). Is this simply convinience? Steelmind stores Speed, so will be vital part of ship's drive, but why use it also as computer?

BTW, when I learned about Scadrians Space Ships, many years ago, my theory was that ship itself is sort of alive, having hemalurgic spike in his main computer and.this is why can use Metaloc Arts. Seems like I was partialy right (they use Awakening, not Hemalurgy, but effect may be the same).

On 11.10.2023 at 9:31 AM, Oltux72 said:

Then they'd all be dead. Sorry, but you have only hours to establish flying cities once you are on the surface of Canticle. That includes the time for understanding the danger the sun poses.

How do you thing they found out humans after death produce sunhearths? Definitly some of them died to the sun. They still have their initial ships, even if they were running on Investiture fumes they still should be able to run once or twice around this very small planet and find out about sunhearths.

On 11.10.2023 at 9:31 AM, Oltux72 said:

They mentioned something much more sinister. They knew that death by sunight does not produce shades. I will say it outright. Zellion and his associates wanted a new home like Canticle, where Threnodites live without Shades and in an environment that forces passificism. Then they surpressed the engine technology.

How they will know that if they didnt see dying to sunlight first? They couldnt know that outright, when they decided to settle there.

5 hours ago, Treamayne said:

Stargate might be more likely. . . but how do you think they were able to move flying ships into Shadesmar when Threnody does not have a stable perpendicularity - then move through Shadesmar - then get it back to the physical realm on Canticle which has no known perpendicularity at all?

Some sort of Threnodite equivalent of Transportation Surge. We know Threnodites are able to leave planet in current time, we literaly met at least two of them. Maybe some sort of fabrial using Shades. They needet to have other power sources for ships when they leave Threnody, so some sort of Invested Technology was known to them. Indeed they may use something like Stargate (Shadegate?) to move into Shadesmar, and then navigate to strong source of Investiture in Shadesmar, then leave, only to realize they get trapped because they cant use this Investiture. This is very plausible - they needet to find fuel for ships, because in Shadesmar Investiture is scarce, so Zelin decided to go back to Physical Realm when they detect strong source of Investiture on other side.

4 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

They derived the engines that lift the cities from their ship engines. They state that temselves. Hence we are certain that they left Threnody in space ships.

They went to that systems intentionally or extremely recklessly.

But their engines cannot work in space! And they didnt mention anything about "forgotten technology". More even, they are certain they cannot fly high above surface and they are surpriced when Nomad mentions space ships. If they arrived on Canticle in space ship, they would have at least legend about "descending from stars" or something like this. Also, Chorus will mention this. Also, that will mean Threnody had space ferring technology before Evil, and this contradicts what we know about them.

They traveled by flying vessels, but they didnt travel throu space. In my opinion, Shadesmar is more likely.

On 2.10.2023 at 9:25 PM, Oltux72 said:

Zellion, why? Because he did not like the politics of his home world? And that is a reason to lead your people into exile? We are not even touching upon intentionally dropping your people onto a world where children will have to approve of sacrificing their parents. Even Straff Venture had better reason than that man.

Why assume he wanted this? Canticle has no Perpendicularity. Will not be accesible from Shadesmar, until temporary one apear. If Threnodites fled by Shadesmar, then something forces them to go out on Canticle and they get stuck. If they were traveling by other means, they will get stuck too. Is very possible that Canticle wasnt main destination, but became one. Simply, it's a trap!

On 5.10.2023 at 0:23 PM, Oltux72 said:

• time dilatation in orbit and on the surface are equal and they know it
• they are not equal, the Night Brigade knows that, compensates and doesn't care otherwise
• the effects are equal and they do not know.

Is almost certain that outworlders know about hipothetical time dilatation, if it occurs. They needet to analyse planet during approaching and landing, they simply have to see evidence of time dilatation, especially Scadrians - for them time manipulation is something they are very familiar with. So maybe indeed and all of them dont care about that, but I dont see situation when space-ferring civilisation cant notice something like time dilatation.

1 hour ago, Oltux72 said:

That is because gravity obeys the square of the distance rule. Investiture need not do that (note: that is not the whole reason you need to adjust in satellites. They are also affected by being in motion as special relativity acts. But that part is unaffected. They expect it and will still see it.)

Doesnt matter. Still they need to calculate this potential time dilatation, regardles of origin. 

15 minutes ago, Steelsight said:

Huh. I'm not a physicist/astrophysicist so I'll have to take you at your word. I guess this theory can't be true without some serious Cosmere physics shenanigans.

Im not specialist either, I simply know that.

On 2.10.2023 at 3:29 AM, Johnny Silverlight said:

The Sunlit Man offers us our first tantalizing hints about the nature of the Evil that slew most of the humans on Threnody. The relevant passage occurs on Page 140:

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“We came from another world,” she said around bites of her food. Odd, how they even ate with gloves on. “Chased by an ancient force known as the Evil.”

“It’s still there,” he said. “On your homeworld. I’ve seen it. Well, the manifestations of it.” Wild, unchained Investiture, come to life with its own alien will—forming mountain-sized figures with impossible, unnerving features and unknowable motivations. Threnody was not a place one visited to relax.

This comment finally threw her for a loop. She almost dropped her sandwich as he said it.

 

 

Description of Evil was to me very similar to something more familiar to us.

To Rosharan HighStorm. Those giant figures looks very much like Stormstriders, so possible Evil is very much like Stormfather.

But we dont know when Night Brigade was founded, and where. Seems like they originated on Threnody, but is also possible they are from Silverlight and were founded by Threnodites from this City. So maybe they were in some point part of 17th Shard and for some reason become mercenaries.

32 minutes ago, Steelsight said:

We don't know how far the time dilatation extends around the planet, so whatever satelites the Scadrians may have or soldiers communicating with the Night Brigade ship may still get caught up in it.

No way. We here on Earth need to compensate already in our satelites time dilatation, even so small. If Canticle have larger (what this topic sugests) Scadrians and Night Brigade needet to adjust their technology accordingly and it would be seen.

There is one very strong problem with this theory.

Offworlders would notice it. Night Brigade soldiers would know if there is some abnormal time dilatation during comunications with their ship. And Scadrians would notice this too, especially if they have satelites around planet, what they may have.

As we now have SP4 out, so

You missed everone's favorite Artificial Spren, Nightblood.

(And now my vote to Maya)

It was also my first thought. I think it is the same planet. But when it was, it is a different story.

On 2.10.2023 at 0:33 PM, Oltux72 said:

Compared to the bomb we have seen in Lost Metal? Or Antiinvestiture weapons? Or nuclear weapons? Nightblood is an incredibly powerful weapon if you can bring it to bear.
If ...

It still is a sword and has the range limit inherent in that shape.

But shape of weapon can be changed. Why not missiles? Imagine cruise missile with Nightblood-like warhead. Its unstopable bunkerbuster, and universal anti-everything weapon.

But we know nothing about weapons like this.

20 hours ago, Firesong said:

If you look at the images in the book, yeah, they totally are. 

But what I do wonder, is why his armour looks like that. Skybreaker armour should be a dark grey. Is it maybe due to the fact his armour was very hot? Or was it because it was a mix of Skybreaker and Windrunner Shardplate, as they did mention several times that he had both Shardplate spren appear. So maybe them both manifesting at once made it look weird?

I think Shardplate is ember-colored because Zelion was running on Emberhearts, so this type of Investiture woild influence his Armor.

But Connection to the planet is also good guess.

I think this "something more" what Sigzil lacked at that moment was proper Identity. Investirure on Canticle, similar to Nalthis, is linked to being properly part of local sociaty. Because there are not many people on Canticle it was enough when just 135 of acepted Sigzil as one of them.

On 25.09.2023 at 4:54 AM, MadMax634 said:

When Harding was attacking Nalizar and Joel in the dorm, the chalkings came from Harding's mouth. This makes sense because the chalkings are a 2D being so they can exist inside his throat, stomach, lungs etc, etc. But wouldn't the stomach acid and wetness of his insides smudge and destroy the chalkings but they could reform, so how did Harding not feel chalkings smudging and reforming inside his chest throughout the day?

They teorticaly came from his mouth, but becuse he is posessed, they actually were not in Hardings body, they were in what was in possesion of his body. So chalkings were not in contact with his internals.

On 25.09.2023 at 4:54 AM, MadMax634 said:

How did Joel's father die? Joel is told that he died in a spring rail accident, but on page 202 his mom hints that he didn't die in an accident and that it had something to do with his research. ¨your father... he sacrificed so much. He might have made it, too, if his blasted research hadn't ended up costing his life¨ 

Wasnt that hinted it was suicide?

On 10.07.2023 at 1:42 PM, JustQuestin2004 said:

If Jaddeth/Autonomy did cause he Earthquake and made the Elantrians near-powerless bald zombies, then why did they not send in their Dahkor Monks to slaughter everyone right after it instead of waiting 10 whole years?

There are some explanations:

1. Jaddeth didnt know how exactly this earthquake will work. He knows it will desrupt Elantrian magic, but didnt know HOW MUCH. So this mean he did not have full controll over it - can cause some disaster, but cant controll it further.

2. They wanted to, but something disrupted them. There is so many thinks what is outside Shard's influence, let alone just Avatar. This could be anything, some raiders, some heretic uprising, province uprising, other empire (Rose Empire maybe?).

3. They still were not strong enough to strike Arelon. Maybe something that strong like causing earthquake on the other side of continent can be done only in specific moment by Jaddeth, maybe it needet some concentration of Investiture like Autonomy Perpendicularity on Scadrial, but with some Selish influence - maybe other Shardpool on Sel is accesable only in specific time? So Jaddeth caused earthquake, and then waited until Arelon will decline and Shu-Dereth rise.