Woozy

On 9/24/2019 at 11:40 PM, Calderis said:

This is honestly why I don't think it was the Radiants idea, but the spren.

I find it odd that none of the spren now are aware of the reasons for the recreance. Just that humans betrayed their spren... But we know that a spren can end the bond if they wish. 

The spren were at the very least complicit. You can't plan a coordinated effort like we see in the recreance, and have the spren not be aware of it. 

Add in that after the fact the radiants just... Walk away, despondent, and seemingly downtrodden... It does not seem like a choice they wanted to make. 

But what happens if, after the domino like cascade of historical and current atrocities and your god raving that you will end your world, your best friend then drops this on you. The being that you have an extremely intimate bond with. One who in many ways is literally a part of you, tells you that this has to end, and they know a way to ensure that it does... 

That is interesting. If that is true and the spren had input it makes me wonder why the windrunners and stonewards spren would want to be "disposed of" out in one big group where dalinar saw them in his vision. 

I always assumed the other orders left their spren(Shard blades) in hidden locations, Although I could be wrong about that, do you think the stonewards and windrunners spren wanted their "corpses" to be used by other humans?

So I think I understand the reasoning behind wanting to abolish the knights radiant. The reasons being that Honor was crazy, and saying they would destroy roshar, they lobotomized the parshmen, then found out humanity were the original voidbringers. 

However, is there any reason why the knights radiant wouldn't try to make a deal with their spren to stop forming bonds with humans? 

If they could not break there bonds without killing their spren why not make a pact saying. "After we die, you stay in shadesmar, do not bond with anymore humans."

The reason I bring this up is that they are bonded and have deep relationship with their spren. I feel like the spren would potentially understand that surge bonding is dangerous, especially with Honor raving about it. Wouldn't the knights radiant would have a hard time talking about potentially killing their spren without trying to negotiate with them at all?