Dalakaar

A new personal project for Wit. Going around to every Shardblade-bearer and convincing them that they have to tell their blades a joke to summon them faster. 

To the OP. Interesting but i don’t see it. I think the simpler explanation is more a chicken/egg thing. You’re seeing that Kaladin is a Windrunner and finding out that Lirin has a hand in it. That maybe Lirin is more because of that. What I’m seeing is that Syl wouldn’t have bonded Kaladin without his upbringing in the first place. I think Lirin is just what he is. A surgeon with values that aren’t common in Alethkar. It’s an explanation of his past and why Kaladin was chosen in the first place more than a hint that his upbringing has mystery. (All imho ofc, but I think Occum is at play here. )

In Soviet Roshar Multiple Personalities has Shallan!

In Soviet Roshar Ketek is backwards!

In Soviet Roshar Wit writes Brandon Sanderson!

To Wit: "Hey, have you ever heard of the author Brandon Sanderson?"

1 hour ago, StrikerEZ said:

To each their own, I guess. We’ll find out which of us is right (hopefully) in SA4! 

Well if the poll is any indication you'll be getting a brighter Brightlord Adolin! I'm still holding out hope for something new in their case though. 

3 hours ago, StrikerEZ said:

and I think the evidence in books definitely points more towards Adolin becoming a Radiant. The way the Cosmere works, Maya should not be able to be revived without a nahel bond forming between her and Adolin. 

Disagree. It points to something happening between them, the radiant part is opinion. And the assumption that it has to be a nahel bond is, assumption.

Well, my assumptions and opinions are that he doesn't and he can manage something other than a nahel bond. 

7 hours ago, Wander89 said:

Reminds me of an old cartridge game that we used to get

Don't forget to blow on the bottom of it!

They'd have to be awfully big logs. 

...or awfully big ewoks.

1 minute ago, Invocation said:

What you need is to Ewok vs ATST the person in Plate and you're good.

The below image is purely for scientific speculation and posterity. Don't laugh.

5 minutes ago, ElendVenture said:

I get the gyst of what you are saying. But if the force that holds a section of armor is actually just sealing the pieces together like it does on a helmet visor than the forces needed should be equal and it would be just as hard to pucture it as it would be to tear it off.

That sort of plays into what I was saying. Between ripping an entire chunk of plate off and just puncturing it I’d take the section off. Removing a section in a single move would result in a faster opening but at the expense of skill and positioning. Essentially what I’m going for is a potential wound in two hits instead of three with a non-standard weapon and technique which could prove easier to pull off against most of the stances. 

26 minutes ago, Invocation said:

Growing it too fast or too much at once results in cracked gemstones, and if two people have sections of the same Plate and are trying to grow from it, it's going to start growing with whichever gives the largest amount of Light the quickest which can cause delays. We haven't seen (off the top of my head) the cracks sealing over, because generally if someone's Plate is cracking, they're getting the crap beaten out of them so soundly they don't have a chance to seal back over, so we don't know how fast it really grows.

Hmm. That bolded bit works in my favour. I just don’t see Shardplate growing like wolverines skin. We just don’t know enough to confirm any of this fun speculation sadly. 

15 minutes ago, ElendVenture said:

It seems that there was a misunderstanding. I addressed the first topic, ripping the plates clean off the storming armor with a hook by saying: "isn't the armor [that being armor sections] together with magic?". That means that the sections can not be seperated without lots of force. Shard plate is broken by very powerful trauma or very sharp blades. Niether of these traits are held by a dude with nothing but a hook to pull on the armor with. 

I have no idea if the magic keeping it together is stronger than the magic keeping the plate from being damaged. I am guessing it isn’t. Even if it is or is close, the benefit of removing the piece outweighs the cost of the endeavour. I think you are overestimating the force acquired from just swinging something compared to the force Shardplate just inately has. The force behind the hook isn’t from the hook, nor from a swing, it’d be from the main-strength in the Shardplate the guy is wearing. I am specifically talking about a fight between Shardplate wearing contestants. 

Has there been a WoB or any mention of how fast plate grows? That’s something I’m curious all on it’s own. 

2 minutes ago, Invocation said:

Sometimes, the damage does seal itself over, even when not completely healed. From the Coppermind entry on Shardplate:

 

Interesting but the speed of the resealing is the linchpin in proposed tactic. If it takes even 30 seconds ( and I’m guessing it takes longer) then the opening you create by removing a section is where you go for the wound that will win the fight. I haven’t seen that bit about plate though. 

1 minute ago, ElendVenture said:

Isn't the armor held together magically? I was thinking that perhaps having the force multiplyer of a swinging six foot long sword behind the stab of the hook  being much more powerful than a normal thrust it would take quite a few less strikes to destroy a section.

Removing a section with the hook would not be done with a thrust. 

Just now, Invocation said:

Wouldn't work, probably. I get the feeling someone would have tried it (and they probably have, and failed). Plate probably seals itself much like the helm's viewpiece does, in the same process as that and the same process that allows it to conform to the current user each time.

Nope I disagree 110%. By that logic it should seal itself when it is damaged. It takes stormlight and time to regrow pieces as well. Removing a piece would constitute more damage. Removing it would also likely require more concentrated power though. But that’s the point in a fight like that. 

I wonder how a weapon designed to rip off pieces would fair comparable to one designed to puncture. (Ie. using the oathbringer hook to rip off a spaulder/pauldron for instance. ) In a fight between Shardplate wearers ripping off a section might wind up in a faster kill as its a single powerful move that opens a section as opposed to two-three hits on a section for the same result. 

6 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said:

Can't stand Kaladin. Every scene is a pity party for him. The worst part is he doesn't even have the most tormented back story.

Kaladins issue is exactly that. He has depression. He could have an even better life than he has but still suffer from those problems. 

5 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

edit: little follow up tidbit. The way Aesudan talks about Yelig-nar implies to me that it does have intelligence. Otherwise why make a point of saying Ashertman is mindless? I feel the juxtaposition is intentional, but that is just my reading of the below scene:

Oathbringer page 813

She laughed "Yelig-nar serves me. Or do you speak of the Heart of the Revel? Ashertmarn has no will; he is merely a force of consumptions, mindless, to be harnessed. 

Theory with some relevance to this. That more hyphens in an Unmade correspond to a higher level of sapience/sentience. 

Source

16 minutes ago, Invocation said:

Probably more that they didn't need it as much. Now that Dalinar has freaked out Odium a little and refused his championship, Odium probably is trying new things, plus he had 4,000 years to come up with new things to do other than just breaking the Heralds.

He is verifiably trying new strategies this time around. Specifically the Everstorm is stated to be something new. I don’t have the verbatim quote easy to find on my phone though.

That being said I don’t think that impacts the underlying question significantly. Just wanted to point out you’re right and Odium is capable of formulating and executing new strategy. 

3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

So I think its cool that Dalinar and Jasnah could co-exist, with the exact same level of information, and still hold to their own rationale/beliefs without conflict. 

Ditto. I like that Brandon isn’t going to delve into the Beyond on purpose.

Pertinent and interesting WoB that includes Dalinar/Jasnah even. 

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Questioner[PENDING REVIEW]

After people die, in this universe, where do they go? Because, at first they appear in the <?>, and then they go somewhere else.

Brandon Sanderson[PENDING REVIEW]

One of the things that's very important to me as a writer, when I am writing stories, is when we get to these kind of fundamental questions about faith and religion and things like this, that the narrative is allowing multiple characters' viewpoints to be plausibly true, if this makes sense. For instance, I am not gonna come out and say, "Is there a capital-G God of the cosmere, is there an afterlife?" These are not questions I'm gonna answer, because in-world, they can't answer them. What they can say is, your Investiture will leave what we call a Cognitive Shadow, which is an imprint of your personality that can do certain things. And that most of those fade away, and you can see them, glimpse them, and then watch them go. But, are they going somewhere? Or are they not? Is that simply the Investiture being reclaimed, Is it more of a Buddhist thought, where your soul is getting recycled and used again? Is it nothing, you return to, you know, being... yeah, is it a different type of matter? Or is there a Beyond, is there a capital-G God? These questions are not answered. I'm never gonna answer those.

Now, the characters will try to answer them. But it's important to me that both Dalinar and Jasnah can exist in the same universe, and that the story is not saying "This one is right, and this one is wrong." The story is saying "This is how this one sees the world; this is how this one sees the world." It's very important to me from the beginning to do that, just because... Like, I hate reading a book where someone espouses my viewpoint only to get proven wrong by the entire structure of the narrative, and in that universe, that person iswrong. But I'm like, "In our universe, I don't think that I am. Just the way you constructed everything makes it so that I have to be wrong, if I were living in your universe, even if it's not a sci-fi/fantasy one." If that makes sense.

This is just kind of for respecting my characters and for the people who hold the viewpoints of my characters, in particular if they happen to be different from my own viewpoints. I feel there are certain lines I'm not gonna cross.

So, the answer is: who do you believe? Which of the philosophies in the books do you look at and say "Yeah!" Or, even better: listen to lots of different ones, and maybe these different viewpoints are all gonna have interesting points that'll things to think upon.

49 minutes ago, Winds Alight said:

I'm 27 (born 1991). I started reading SA in 2011 when I was 19 (what the hell how can it already be that long).

 

35 for me. (Almost 36, ugh.)

I started with Mistborn, then he moved to finishing WoT which actually disappointed me a bit. I understood it got him recognition but I had given up on WoT partway through book 10 for good. I had been hoping to see more original works from him instead. Turns out I just had to wait a bit for SA to land. Amusingly, I only read Elantris for the first time a few months ago.

Clearly it's time for a Thaylen Naval Officer to become a KR and work with Navani to make a submarine-fabrial and travel to the Origin. (Calling it here folks.)