Andrew C

I think that Trell's origin story is legit - Trell was just a forgotten god of antiquity that was invented as an origin story.

But that story persisted (thanks, Sazed!) and now any of those forgotten gods could be used by a rival Shard.

So I think it's Odium.

Yes, Odium is heavily invested in Roshar, but he's been around the Cosmere before and I don't see him needing much investiture in order to create one spike.

Bleeder is *hateful*. Her whole motivation is driven by hatred. Once free from Harmony's control, you'd think she'd approach Wax and explain the situation - instead she sets up Wax to kill her again.

I picture him as the stereotypical 'skinny nerd'.

If I were Brandon, I'd move the customary 'Series is ending, so massacre all the characters' scene into Book 4, just to mess with the people posting here.

Now it's at 24% and I'm starting to think he's messing with us... 

jk, not really but I just really want it to be rounded up to 25 because I have issues.

Why is it called OCD?

That name has no order. CDO. That's it. It is now in alphabetical order.

As it SHOULD BE.

You need to sing this.

And video it.

And post to Youtube.

I choose to believe that before she set out to rescue David from Phaedrus, Megan clenched her fist and spoke these words:

 

"Life before death. Journey before destination. Strength before weakness."

"I will protect those who cannot protect themselves."

 

Hey... she was glowing in the climax, was she not?

(Minor WoK spoiler)

My reading of that scene was that Oblit thought he was in mortal peril from the time David hitched a ride, and he fled. David called out to him as he was leaving and Oblit took David seriously.

I *really* need to reread that scene though.

When I shared this thread with my husband, his reply was: 

 

[in movie announcer voice]  "In a world where heroes become villains, one true hero rises like a potato in a minefield..."

bahahahahahaha... That is epic. (accidental pun)

I now want a Mistborn story about a Hazekiller really badly.

That would be fascinating in a world with only Mistings. Against Mistborn Hazekillers are generally relegated to speedbump status.

I would have thought he'd have told his weakness to Tia in case he needed to be put down. I see no reason he'd tell anyone else.

This is, of course, predicated upon Tia not being a closet Epic herself.

If it gets made you absolutely, positively MUST include Mitosis as a scene (epilogue to book 1, or first scene of book 2) and (MITOSIS SPOILER)

Mitosis (minor antagonist in Reckoners) definitely needs the Rick Astley song 'Never Gonna Give You Up'

It's the name Steelheart and the 'a heart of steel starts to grow' that makes it fit the one character so well.

Firefight (minor) spoilers

I can't hear the song 'Superheroes' by The Script without the lyrics getting to me...

All his life he's been told
He’ll be nothing when he’s old
All the kicks and all the blows
He won't ever let it show

'Cause he's stronger than you know
A heart of steel starts to grow

And later...

He's a got a beast in his belly

That's so hard to control
'Cause they've taken too much hits
Taking blow by blow
Now light a match, stand back, watch them explode

I wonder if Steelheart saw this as the theme song of his life.

I assumed she meant what she did to Obliteration--take a chunk of his DNA and stick it in a machine.

I believe this is the case too, although I'm not sure whether it is the only mechanism by which it can happen.

Which makes Dawnslight all the more weird, because he did appear immediately afterwards. Honestly, none of us is really sure what´s up with him.

Unless the leadership of the Faithful do know what is going on with him... My suspicion is that he's an anti-Calamity force of some description.

what if TIa is an epic...but cola is somehow her weakness? She forces it on herself to keep her in control. (this book talks WAY too much about her cola addiction without it being something. 

YES THIS PLEASE.

As for David's survival after getting part disintegrated - I reread the scene and I'm pretty sure that Megan grabbed a dimensional alternative to David. The wording strongly implies this.

That poem is like a kitten in a minefield.

You feel terrible for laughing at it, but you can't take your eyes from it until the horrible ending.

Yeah they should get Rick Astley to play the role for sure.

Yeah the 5 mile limit was an elaborate ploy to protect her real base.

So, for what it's worth, here's an attempted diagram where points to the SE are needed:

 

Shaded area is land, so it's not possible to create datapoints to the NW, leaving SE as only option.  

 

Although I have to say, this part of the plan always sounded extremely dodgy to me - I think you'd need to create a lot of datapoints to actually pin down a location like this in practice. 

If you know the exact distance, you can do it with a pretty small number of data points, 6 or 7 should be enough. And that's to pinpoint in three dimensions where Regalia is, not just in two.

If you do not know the exact distance (i.e. if '5 miles' might be 4.637 miles, or 5.556 miles), you'd need an extra couple of points of reference at least.

The main issue, however, is false negatives. If Regalia doesn't show up, it may not be because she is out of range. It may be because she is busy drowning a kitten somewhere or something like that.

iirc, Abraham's "religion" (I wouldn't actually go so far as to call it that) has no name, but it's followers are referred to as 'The Faithful'.

 

 

I'd have to double check, and I don't have my book handy, but I thought Steelheart was a high school jock (in addition to being a bully)?  Though given that he did badly beat someone at one point, it's likely that he spent time in prison.

Yeah he was a bully and a jock. I can't see gang culture being traumatic enough to make him afraid of not people that weren't afraid of him unless he did jail time in one of the world's worse prisons. Given that he was American (I think?), prison is pretty likely.

Thanks for reminding me of the name of the Faithful. 

Is it just me that imagined the scene where Mitosis is slain to feature a few dozen clones that all look like Rick Astley on one side, and a whole town singing "Never Gonna Give You Up" on the other until all the Rick Astleys explode?

Sorry if I just ruined that scene for you forever.

Yeah Nightweilder is sure to have been badly sunburned. Steelheart presumably lived in some sort of gang culture at some point, perhaps in prison (he was known to be a bully) and needed people afraid of him, and Fortuity no doubt has been through a messy, messy divorce.

Other book spoilers in tags are minor but real - be warned.

I think Dawnslight is something else entirely, although I'm not sure. In Brandon's books religions always matter somehow (MISTBORN SPOILER

LEGION SPOILER

Stormlight book 1 spoiler

. The religion (cannot remember the name, /derp) of having faith in 'good epics' is probably important.

As a red comet, Calamity is a good opposite to 'Dawnslight', assuming DL lives up to his name in any way. I would not be surprised if DL continues to oppose Calamity the way he opposed Regalia in Firefight.