Singer

Fun discussion, guys! I enjoyed the book, I had fun reading it, and I really liked Spensa's character arc.

Super late to the game on this one! But...my dream arc for back five Kaladin:

I cannot wait to see what Kaladin and Syl think of Nightblood!

Also, Lirin drawing the shash on his forehead is like the equivalent of the dad making it to their kid's school play/baseball game at the end of a nineties movie.

I am loving catching up on all the character Deep dives! They must take an insane amount of prep, thanks guys!

I haven't read it yet, but it's nice to hear your thoughts!

While I don't like spoilers, I like to have some idea of the type of story I'm reading so I can give it a fair shake. I liked Starsight more on subsequent reads as I understood what the goal of the story is, but I do still really want more of Skyward Flight, so hopefully the novellas scratch that itch for me! I'm also hoping to have more characters come together in book four.

I suspect the anger issue is not intentional. I don't think Brandon is trying to claim that anger isn't justified for these characters, but I do think the writing doesn't completely follow through on their struggles. Maybe he feels he mentioned why they are angry and that it has a real cause and that covered it.

Maybe Brandon's faith is a part of that, forgiveness is kind of a big deal in Christianity in general. There is an element of "don't let your anger control your life" in lots of his books, I think that is a perfectly reasonable thing to say, but I agree the issue is that the source of their justified anger isn't addressed as fully as maybe it should be. I am still hoping for Stormlight to follow this through more fully.

Differentiating between healthy ways to use anger vs dangerous ones, resolving social issues, and different kinds of anger (interpersonal anger, social justice rage, and self loathing are all really different) would be awesome. I'm looking forward to these evolving in new in interesting ways in future books...I hope...

I definitely wouldn't have done better than either of you two. You guys chose reaaaally hard ones!

I do want to point out that Dalinar did in fact ask the Nightwatcher if forgiveness was possible for what he'd done. He wanted the pain gone, but he did actually ask for forgiveness.

Good thing the only swag I ordered was the playing cards then...

I am so interested in what the couple dynamics for human/singer couples might be. Since Singer forms can affect their behavior and attitude a bit I want to see how the human half responds. I want to see how emotional communication works when one can hear rhythms and the other can't. I'd love to see some scenes of Rlainarin domestic life in the back half!

The only question I have about Rhythm of War:

Spoilers + random musical musings...

I am sure I'm not the only person who was clearly reading this book waaaay too late into the night to notice one of the big reveals mentioned

Yeah, I really have to blame the late night brain fog because anything else would be inexcusable.

I give this podcast 4.5/5 hordlings, slight loss of points just because you didn't mention "the delights of distant Aimia," but I love getting lore, theories, and character chat all in one podcast!

Cognitive realm in the United States? Big Macs. JK, in the West where I live it would be water. We think and talk about water usage and droughts a lot.

Looks like Tuesday is my new favorite day of the week!! I can't believe they are starting to drop chapters so early. It's almost as if they knew that there is a world full of people who desperately need something positive to look forward to...

The art will be worth the wait. I looove the sketches and bits of ephemera in SA books. It's difficult to wrap my head around all the work that goes into a book this huge. It really takes a whole team to release a book that looks and reads as beautifully as Stormlight!

I took the quiz and was assigned Willshaper. Cool. I looked at the numbers and I actually had a three-way tie between Willshaper, Lightweaver, and Edgedancer, all at 71. So....am I really a Willshaper? Or am I a Willweavedancer? Has anyone else had ties on this thing?

Story of my life: I got a three way tie between Willshaper, Lightweaver, and Edgedancer. All of which beat out Windunner by exactly 1. WHO AM I???

A great, thoughtful discussion! You gave me a lot to think about on these tropes and some of my biases. Shallan's nameless mom is another interesting look at this trope. Unnamed mother who is killed, and her sons certainly think it was their father who done it and would remember her as better than she was. In contrast, Lin and Shallan know the truth about her and how she really died. It's a different version of the trope, but still another example of Cosmere dead mom.

If you want to do some more game/debate podcasts as we wait for RoW to come out, I would love to hear a  Versus match up similar to Ship it or Rip it, but it's all about people facing off in a fight. It might be hard to debate with some really OP characters, but I bet you could come up with some interesting arguments to circumvent that (master manipulators need not be physically strong, etc).

22 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

Haha, thanks! At which clue did you get it?

Clue #3.

@Toaster Retribution, an awesome WTCC. And I guessed it before all y'all, so I am giving myself a point.

B-b-b-b-bingo!

*Puts on aluminum foil hat*

I think the Reshi isles used to be a mountain range near the coast Kurth near the middle of the nation. It got smashed kind of like the Shattered Plains by some surge binding mumbo jumbo and the land sunk, leaving only the peaks of the mountains as islands.

I don't often theorize, but here we go! Y'all got me thinking. What if Cultivation has been cultivating her daughter the Nightwatcher to have a magical signature similar to her own? That way Odium wouldn't notice the difference between a typical boon/curse vs. real Cultivation intervention. She allows the Nightwatcher to do her thing specifically so that she can step in and plant the seeds she needs to bring down Odium. I also theorize that Dalinar, Taravangian, and Lift (and others as well) are all part of her plan to bring down Odium, but in such a way that Odium will overlook them until the crucial moment. That's pretty much how OB played out, he didn't pay attention to or notice Dalinar's personal growth until it was too late. 

I'm pretty sure a Takama is a robe with a deep v/open front and a skirt like bottom