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  1. Not necessarily in the event the Ripheus story was publishable even possibly, but "just in case"...

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    One aspect of the endgame scenario that miffed me, even though I came up with it, was the image of Ripheus channeling the sum of the Final Power, into Apollyon, in order to cause Apollyon to resurrect Itself from its eternal undeath. Now in poetic space, this fits, since Apollyon is described as looking like a city [with skyscrapers and a skyline thereof] but which "was" alive "in the beginning," but due to Its nature it is undergoing a single act of total self-demolition, slowed down to fit the metric of whatever actual finite or infinite history there turns out to be. [This plays into the finessed doctrine of eschatonic time, to be discussed below.] So, what do you do if you're facing the ultimate Dungeons & Dragons lich-demon/demon-god? You cast "Resurrect" on it, since Life Energy conflicts with Death Energy, so...

    The technical/theoretical explanation was later that the infinite self-negation of Apollyon's cascade of power, in the end, would map-compute to an act of positive [mathematical] reality "in the limit," so Ripheus, by giving all of the Final Power whatsoever, to his adversary, arrives at the surprise solution to the endgame question: metaphysically rendering Apollyon's act of negation to infinity, will map-compute it to the "Resurrection" of the undead city.

    However, this still didn't actually sit well with me, which is weird, because when I figured out why [just this morning], it turned out that it wasn't so much that the description of the event was somehow absurd or deficient, but that I had not taken adequately into account the very fact that for Apollyon, as the Form of Destruction, to transdestroy the Form of Evil by converting it into the Form of Nothingness, thereafter negating the nothingness back into existence, which existence It [the Destroyer] would go on to shatter again, before Resurrecting it unto an immortal massacre... well...

    What it took for me to "get it" (to understand how the supersolution would actually have to work), was realizing that the Form of Evil is the Form of Destruction, in the real world. That is, although in the world of Ripheus, "the Form of Evil" is shorthand for "the Form of the Final Offenses," Apollyon is therefore, in the real world, and otherwise even in the Riphean one, the actual Form of Evil simpliciter, because He is the Form of both the Final Offenses and Destruction in Itself.

    But moreover, even otherwise in the Riphean setting, Apollyon was supposed to, in essence, fuse with the Form of Evil, in the end, by virtue of using the Form's power, in part, to commit the ultimate sin of all transcreation (besides the end of the world forever and ever, that is, I guess...). But so if this were true, then if it makes sense [which it otherwise does] for Apollyon to be able to Resurrect the Form of Evil unto eternity, then it makes sense for Apollyon to be able to Resurrect Itself, in the end, and by this means defeat Itself at the last.

     

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      [Eschatonic time:

      Suppose you have an infinite sum of possible history. Then suppose there is a counterpart episode, in a counterpart time, that is finite in semantic duration. That is, it is really, in a way, just one event, or incident, or act, or whatever. Now, how can you map the finite spiritual reality to the infinite physical one? The first solution, even the form of all of them as far as I know, is to suppose that time is so uniformly slowed down that it will take forever, as it goes, to get from the beginning of the event to its end. It is a pure Zeno dynamic, one might say.

      But, there are other "mathematical"/"geometrical"(?) solutions possible, I believe, maybe. Like, maybe there are interpolated halves, each of one seeming to "go on forever," the other lasting only a time, such that, over the vast reaches of time, progress is divided over this weird divergence, at least in the sense that, up until the final interval, one might have some sense of "where" one is, in eschatonic time.

      For the supposition would be that there was an eschatological value to the divergence at hand: namely, perhaps some intervals, finite- or infinite-seeming, would concentrate the overall representation of the theme of the individual spiritual event. I.e., some physical events would express a special correspondence to the form of the reason for the entire spiritual continuum. It would be within these events, perhaps, that the conflict with the avatars of the final offenses, and with Apollyon, would be decided in certain terrible or dread-fallen ways...]

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