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Yea, and I agree with most of that. For me, the ending to Wok and WoR were just a big fist pump moments. I haven't had a book like that, and haven't since. Maybe that' why the first 2 are so special to me. The Tien portion was very powerful, and I do admit, I like dalinar story arc. Took a bit to warm up to, but once I did. I enjoyed it. Shallam just feels fake as hell to me and kaladin depression doesn' feel authentic. I try to buy into it but just cant. It feels forced onto characters, that I felt either out grew it, or shouldn' have had it to begin w. Great reply tho, I totally get where your coming from.

I agree....these are all people's opinions. You can make an argument, valid or not, and someone can accept it or not. This thread wasn't meant for a bunch of people to who don't see it Iron Bar's way, to try and come in and force him to change his opinion. I mean hell i get irriated when religous people knock on my door and try to force feed me their religion, and don't take a polite refusal to go away. I took this thread for those of us who didn't like the third book, to converse and discuss why we didn't like it and why. Like I said before, the first 2 books are epic. This 3rd is a pile of crap(my opinion), does that mean the rest of the books are gonna suck? No, most likely they will be great books and this might be an oddity. Now I'm gonna make like an underwater fart bubble, and get the heck outta here before the lynch mob shows up(joking). One question for those who follow. In what order do you have your favorite books in this series. For me the 1st book is the best, the 2nd is close to it and the 3rd is way far south. I'm curious to see if anyone liked the 3rd book more than either of the first two. My thoughts are, not many. Those first 2 books are just too dam good.

So I'll check that out, I have read the other books. I really liked lord of the rings, it' amazing how much terry brooks borrowed from that series for the sword of shannara

I really liked books 1 through 3 of the WOT saga. 4-6 were a little on the slow side. Any good audio books suggestions for like a trilogy series you guys recommend? How''s white sand? I just read the small sample and liked what I read. Elantris I think had a lame magic system, but other then that I liked it ok....your right it was a weaker book, compared to the others lol.

Iron bars, man you nailed that down totally. I started making excuses for the book shortly after I read it. Saying well the book had a very poor plot, plot devices, story arcs etc and I would say it was ok becuase he had to enter to much secret info in it to keep us pleased. It was more like a dictionary than a story. Anyway I had the same fears you did of getting skewered on here. But your right, that 3rd book is weak. I bought several copies and gave them to my real life friends and not a single one likes this book. Book 1 and 2 are in my top books and I rate them very high. I've also read everything else that he has written and for me, OB is his worst book yet. Everyone of my friends pretty much has thoughts that mirror your thoughts aswell. I also expect Brandon to be human and not perfect. He's gonna a have a few weak books in this series. Almost all writers do. What I'm hoping is that he can right the ship before too many novels go by. Kinda like Robert Jordan (until he passed away and I think everyone pretty much agrees the books in the middle of the saga WOT are weak). Anyway thanks for your opinion, and I want you to know your not alone, there are many of us that weren't happy W the book. He' just too good of a writer for this to become commonplace. Here's to hoping book 4 doesn' suck balls.