Indigo Weasel

And thus we see that Albatross Slightly confused, though he was Did not have blood of Koloss Just a bit of mental fuzz.

Sorry for any bandwagoning that occurred. I personally didn't feel comfortable lynching you, and I'm glad that It didn't happen. That being said, I feel kind of bad for starting a bandwagon on Tutara instead. I find it curious how after the little bandwagon for Cream Tutara ended up causing a counter against Magenta again. Then again any interaction like that would seem suspicious. Which brings me to the next thing I want to look at Why not mention me? I was part of that late hour debacle too! Are you just taking me as an innocent bystander that got sucked in? @Emerald Falcon Would that mean you also suspect Amber Vulture, or are you just saying that Magenta's actions are super suspicious. Mild elim read on Emerald falcon, and maybe Cream Tutara as well. I see Melon's posts from D2 as NAI, but this post gives me a soft village read on him. That's what people tend to say about my posts when I'm not anon too. It's worth noting that I did react to him directly, and indirectly responded to his claim. Look back at my post and I italicized a word, as a response to his italicized word. Most fair analysis I've seen regarding my actions since I've started playing SE, I think. Well done. I cannot argue with anything here. Also, Azure mouse 1. I am still suspicious of you and amber. 2. Thanks, I have really enjoyed your RP's 3. I've really enjoyed your Analyses 4. And I know who your main account is. 5. How good are you at counting?

Checking in for the day! So far I don't know where my thoughts are going, so give me a few minutes to put together an analysis of something. I will say that I don't think Dingo's posts from today are alignment indicitive. They seem pretty normal to me. If anything, maybe a bid of IKYK, but unintentionally, until it came time to defending himself.

Amber vulture cream tutara Reasoning is weak and is only bases off of one post. I'm heading to bed, so I'll see what sort of mess this gets me stuck in tomorrow.

@Seonid or @Orlok Tsubodai or @Fifth Scholar, a little help with hiding that person's post? @Amber Vulture what do you think about tutara?

@Amber Vulture, do you have any suggestions? I'm willing to consider others. Edit: I've probably got anywhere between 10 and 30 monutes

@Magenta Albatross, I see what you're getting at, and i would love to assist you in your predicament, but I haven't yet analyzed Coral Swan's posts, and i don't have time tonight. I can't in good conscience vote for an unknown alignment to save a villager, when I have another read on someone else. Can you find anything convincing in his posts to incriminate him? It might help me change my mind. Edit: although, to be honest, I am beginning to doubt my read on vulture, and may change that as well, if I have time to review his most recent posts. I'm on a catch up time frame, but not a go back and analyze time frame right now.

Probably not real terms that are used. I was just thinking along the lines of soft clear versus hard clear and soft claim versus hard claim.

1. Perhaps magenta hasn't removed his vote because if he does then he will be the lead lynched? 2. Have you seen princess Bride? IKYK is kind of the "whose glass is the poison in? Sometimes it's just fun to troll people with the "I know that you only that I know that you are an educated man" mostly 3. Mostly just a gut read with a possibility of you trying to soft pocket magenta after what I believe is a hard pocket on magenta by amber vulture

So this is going to possibly sound elim-ey, and also out of character for who my main account is, but I would honestly be fine with a close vote, just so we can see if there is any sort of vote manipulation. I will be active for about 45 more minutes, then I will hopefully be able to check periodically for the rest of the day, but won't post so much about what my thoughts are until tomorrow. That being said, please don't lynch me. Unless you feel like you must. Hopefully I can respond. I know that my opinion is risky to state considering I might not be able to see people's reactions, but yeah, I wanted to get that out there.

UPDATED VOTE COUNT, If I'm Correct. Coral Swan (1): Amethyst Scorpion Indigo Weasel (1): Ivory Dragonfly Ivory Dragonfly (2): Amber Vulture, Magenta Albatross Magenta Albatross (2): Melon Dingo, Azure Mouse Amber Vulture(1): Indigo Weasel

I think some parts of my post may have been misunderstood. I did it because I find that single-vote poke-votes are sometimes ignored as they don't have much weight. Not mentioning the posts of the person you find suspicious? That makes SO much sense... Especially not mentioning my defense of myself. So the analysis I was doing was looking for alignment indication in the posts in response to the whole magenta/ivory fiasco. I don't see anything Alignment indicitive in your posts. I'm looking at the others posts. Sorry about that. I don't think you're suspicious. I was also trying to summarize Azure's (IIRC) post, and give my two cents worth And you won't let what I said slide? I think I've already answered that. I can't let something slide if it slid past without issue For some reason that doesn't work for me. Also, I'm a he. Also, short, NAI posts are pretty much my norm. I am The Young Pyromancer. Also, the post about me claiming to be good was MEANT as a claim of being roleless, as a defense against the claim that I knew more than I was letting on. Because anonymity is only secondary importance I don't care much that you reveal who you are. But It is still NAI, because I can almost never get a solid read on you specifically. Sorry, I'm really bad at assuming genders. And I try to use gender neutral pronouns, but I usually forget. So I hope that clears a little bit up. I did not mean to sound suspicious of you. I was just trying to find out if others were suspicious. That's why I put my vote on Amber Vulture. They seem like the most likely to be elim in my opinion. Because either A, he's pocketing you, or B, you are also an Elim on his team. Azure is actually my secondary suspicion, and then you are somewhere between 3rd and 13th.

Sorry about the AI confusion. I will use the words alignment indicitive from here on out instead. (unless I forget) On a completely unrelated note, This morning I was trying to log in, but couldn't. Took me like 5 or 10 minutes before I realized that I wasn't the Indigo Ferret...

Hey good morning, to some of you! Kindof large post as it contains several parts First part, Defense of myself(I want to live, so duh): 1. It was actually meant to sound sarcastic 1b. I don't remember doing that... 2. I do know from my role that in order for the village to win, that they have to get rid of all of the threats to the village. So it may not be a standard elim team, but there is at least one sort of Elim team 3. I will discuss this later, as other posts specifically mentioned this post So, yeah, I did vote for you, Coral Swan, Because I misunderstood, therefore I misrepresented your statement. I thought you were saying a D1 lynch is futile, as I mentioned. Now I understand, and I remove my vote from you. I'm pretty sure there were other posts that mentioned me, and I thought I pushed the Multiquote button, but I can't find them listed, so I won't discuss them. I'm too lazy to go back and look for them too. So the next thing I want to discuss is the Kandra Mechanic. I've decided that it shouldn't just be used as a swap. If it's just an account swap, but roles stay the same, then the victim will say something. I find it unlikely that it would be a total swap. If I am village kandra, then I swap totally with someone, there are only a few possibilities. I either swap with another village role, and make that person suspicious, therefore causing a lynch on me. Or I swap with an opposing team role, the previous elim becomes village, and immediately knows who one of the elims was, because they just changed roles, and an elim gets lynched. It could be an elim traitor role, but I also find that unlikely, that would play out something like this Player A and B and C are Elim, but B is also Kandra with total swap ability. Player B performs total swap with player D, and then can immediately out player D. That has balance issues, so I don't think so for that either. So that's why I think it would have to be a kill-swap. It gets rid of the victim's voice, which is what causes any balance issues. Ok, now I'm on to part 3 The Magenta, Ivory discussion. I think this could potentially help us with alignment indication come the next phase. First off a quick summary: A poke vote was placed on Ivory Dragonfly, Then Magenta added their own vote as well, without much reasoning, IIRC People thought that was suspicious. This seems like a reason as legitimate as any other D1 reason for a lynch. After this, Magenta defended himself. I am not going to discuss his posts, because He is always going to try to sound as village as possible, and it's very hard to get any alignment indication above suspicion D1 This was the first defense of Magenta I noticed. too lazy to go back and check again. IMO, it was too early in the phase to bandwagon a lynch on an inactive, just because they were inactive. I don't feel like it was necessary to defend him quite yet either. Because, I only think there was one vote on him. This kept Magenta very safe from their lynch at the time A vote on Dragonfly, even though Magenta is slightly suspicious, because you don't want to run the risk of lynching an active villager. I respect that. Especially since you later removed it. Keeping him in your eye though is good though. After this, we saw a little discussion about his grammar, or wording which must have been corrected, and a post about Magenta apparently accidentally posting from their main account, which was later deleted, and gave Azure a double post. But no response from Ivory that we are able to see. So Hard to judge, how that discussion ended. I agree. Rereading all of that it just seems too perfect or almost staged. It could very well be trying to protect a teammate, or bussing or a variety of other things. Oh, Here's one of the other posts on me. I didn't mean to misrepresent what he said!! I don't personally like that defense. "He had it coming anyway" But I'll let it slide, as I don't know who you really are, and even if I did, I would only know a little bit about your playstyle and personality. I like this post a lot. I have a suspicion of who your main account player is, but I will not disclose it until the end of the game, because it's NAI. First of all, Yes, I agree, It was early. Second, I don't think an Elim team would coordinate so much so early on D1 to try to save a teammate that only has one vote/two later on, I think. Third, I am definitely entertaining the pocketing idea. My personal playstyle is to try to lynch someone that can give us AI on D1, then after that, only lynch inactives, if I have no other solid or semi-solid suspicions. That's my overall opinion across all games. I think it would be good as an AI to lynch Amber Vulture for the reasons of trying to find out Alignment indication. that Mauve discussed. I also wanted to look into the discussion about Kandra mechanics as an alignment indicator, but I feel this post is getting too long as is, so I will stop for now, and leave with this: I've got my main account opened up in Chrome and this account opened up in IE, and I don't have any problems with accessing them both at the same time from the same computer, then I don't make a mistake about which account I'm on, because my main account is staying away from SE, and lurking in other parts of the shard.

Working on a long post now. I will address those issues.

I'm not vulture, but I'm generally in favor of D1 lynched. The longer we wait, doesn't necessarily mean we get any extra alignment info. For now, my vote will be on coral swan for trying to argue that D1 lynches are futile, and trying to stop a lynch. I'll do more analysis tomorrow though.

Fair enough.

Brushing your teeth is of negligible importance compared to this game.

Too bad we can't upvote posts from anon players, because I would Like Magenta's post

Seonid did say that anonymity is only secondary. I suspect it's an anon game so that we can use the anon accounts, as opposed to actually switching (for example) Randuir's and Alvron's account. Could you all imagine the chaos that would ensue if rand was on alvron's real account, or vice-versa.

I will do that, but at the same time, enough people might have seen it that it won't matter. It will also need to get edited in the post by that person who quoted me as well. But I don't know if it matters, a whole lot, because there is pretty much NAI speculation in the post, and nothing more. Maybe.

Uhhh... non-anon player? I'm a little bit confused. You posted this from your main account. If you are playing, shouldn't you be on your anon account that was set up for you just for this game. If I'm mistaken, and there is some odd game mechanic at work, then continue on as normal, please.

The only thing is that anyone can scrutinize our posts prior to becoming our doppleganger. If they figure it out, then it's over, or if you make it too difficult, then it's impossible to figure out by anyone. Also, we can only do that by constantly scrutinizing everyone else's posts the whole time. That seems like too much work to me personally. I just wish there was a more foolproof way, but I do think Azure mouse is right. We each should try doing something that might be telling. Too bad we can't PM anyone. But then, even if we could, during an account swap, I imagine the PM's would swap as well, so then the secret would be able to be found by going through the history. Azure brings up a good point here too. Obviously we need to remember, that there are elims. These are threats. I also suspect that there are scan roles, or village kill roles to help balance the game out a bit. Village kill can be a scary, when we don't know who to use it on, so that could potentially be a threat, unless we have confirmed villagers. There might also be the vote manipulation roles as well. I personally think that the vote manip roles might have been left out of this game to avoid confusion.

Anyway, there's not much we can deduce unless the kandra tells us what they can do. But...I do see that Emerald Falcon was recently browsing and hasn't said anything, so I might as well throw the first poke vote. @Emerald Falcon

So, what we know is that roles can swap accounts. We are assuming that would take a Kandra, because it is scadrial based. I don't personally agree with the entirety of the Kandra Idea. If accounts are swapped, that seems like it's suggesting that Person A(Colorful Chameleon) wants to swap with person B(Vibrant Vipor), so both people just swap accounts. A Kandra usually consumes it's target, effectively killing it, that would suggest that Person B would become Person A, and Person B would just disappear, because there are now less players available. I think the role swap mechanic may be performed by a role titled Kandra, but I don't think that it's a Kandra Mechanic. And I know this next part may go against what I already said, but if it's just a role swap, I expect that it may be both a village and an elim roll, or NAI. Of course, if it is a Kandra mechanic, then it's most likely just Elim, I think. Or what if it's a role where one person decides to swap other people's roles/accounts? Maybe the role stays the same, but just the account swaps? Maybe when the account swaps, so does the entire role with it(Like a troublemaker from the OneNight Werewolf game.) Edit: Ninjad by Azure Mouse