Opal Lion

I agree, which is why I ask why you are on Heron? There has been absolutely no resistance to their exe. There has also been a lot of no posters today but uh straw's post counter either doesn't work because of the site update or i broke it so

Confused now because you claim thug, and uh, you won't die. Man I got no clue who pearl is but if I wasn't playing this game I'd think they were me rn fr EDIT: wait....hmmmm.....I see.... no wait i don't 5/3 2 hours before eod. What if all these are villagers

My current thoughts are trying to figure out if Amber's fixation on "who killed them" is villagery or if it's being used to avoid discussion. Has nothing to do with who's defending who. Has to do with what has physically (for lack of better word) happened in thread. Defences mean nothing to me.

[2] Well if you haven't noticed, you're not dying today. Don't know if you noticed the VC. and [1] You're tilted and not reading my post or my vote. Am I voting you? am I voting Heron? Who am I voting? Where do you see my reads? What posts do you see me making?

Try moving your vote, just try it, it'll make you feel better

Sage Kangaroo I don't understand how people are still comfortable with the Heron train with how little resistance it's gotten. It's possible that they are teamed with Pearl and this is some sort of attempt to get heat off of them, since they did claim when heron was at 3 and they were only at 1. Still, you have to think Pearl is an Elim to be voting on Heron right now.

Do you really think E!meerkat would publicly ask the theoretical Seeker to claim to them? Asking because this is something I would do as a villager simply because if possible I would want to figure out what was going on. And with Cham, the suspicion on them for backing off of Meerkat and then tunneling someone else doesn't seem warranted in the way that scorp? Put it. The thing that is off to me is the intensity of the push on Penguin without any build up to it in my mind. I don't understand where this part comes from though. Like. At all. You still think someone seeked you? Despite the seek being a scam? EDIT: I don't quite understand the clears on alb, one reason I don't trust them is that their analyses....analysi? Analysises? And contributions have been removed from the current discussions and in their own little bubble. This could to some appear villagery as a villager just working by themselves and trying to solve but being sort of lost in thread. I only don't see it this way because from takes on them I assume they are in some active PM/groups. If I am wrong about this fact then someone please correct me.

Hmmmm

@Pearl Chameleon Talk to me please, because I'm for sure confused. Why do you think that E!Penguin means E!rioter, and why does that then mean that there IS an Elim rioter and therefore Penguin is an elim? Do you have info on a Soothe or additional riot used on a previous day?

See, with how strongly you're pushing this I would have expected it to be "the Seeker told me they scanned them E", But really it's just that...nothing? Kinda dissapointing

Wow this is a lot Not a fan of the push from Cham. It feels desperate. Will read up more when I get home from work in about 4 hours.

Heading out for a bit but before I do Penguin, You think that Amber is a strange coinshot target since you see people to be village reading them. your assumption from that is that it's time to kill the claimed mistborn? I don't really think pearl is a villager. I also don't think they're the right exe at all for today. If you think Amber is a strange coinshot target, why would you not assume that an Elim mistborn rolled and shot him? why is your assumption that instead the claimed mistborn is an Elim?

It's just that I wouldn't call that analysis, just information. The only non-flipped role you colored was you, and you didn't out any opinions or findings from it. So I was wondering if you were working on findings that you were going to post after that. And fortunately this is not a problem for me, as I'm not in any trust groups. In my opinions PMs should be used only if you need to share information with someone that you can't share with Elims. Seeker results fall into that. Still that's not analysis, so that's why I was asking. Who are you going to vote, Penguin ?

I assume you mean...it's time now? And you're working on it now?

Finally figured out this post, I'll answer here instead of in PMs since I've never really liked PMs. I find it interesting first of all that your low tier is mostly inactives. But I'll trustfall TUATARA: Tuatara has no content, yeah. But they also don't give any cares. After you (Iguana) voted them at EoD1 for lurking, their only response was to vote you, tell you to stop watching who was reading up, and then continue lurking. If they were an Elim, why would they just go back to that and not care? Did they think they were protected enough to not have to try? Did they think antagonizing you more was an action that would take heat off them? They just don't seem to care how they are percieved. MAUVE: Another person with no content, but I mean no content. They did vote mouse on D2 though. Why? If they were an Elim, wouldn't you expect more TMI to come from a slot like that? a low posting non-existant Elim is more likely to have their few posts be more TMI filled than a normal posting Elim. Voting mouse like that shows that they have no clue what's really happening or people's opinions. MINT: Uh. Pretend I C/P Ostrich's post. Or something. QUARTZ: Hopping back onto Hyena when you know they're going to flip village is a strange move for an Elim to make at the end of the cycle. Not only that but Zebra was trying to find other wagons and bring up other wagons at the end of the day when Hyena wasn't being challenged at all. MEERKAT: Meerkat hasn't really said anything, but how blatant they've been with everything they've done is villagery. Yes, it was their CR, but specifically how they played D1 with not wanting to "make enemies" is something that Elims will do, yes, but not as blatantly as meerkat played it. Not only that but claiming to be vanilla while being a soother is townier of them, since if they were an Elim they would most likely either not claim anything or claim their role in an attempt to save themselves.

Flamingo, Vulture, Penguin, Kangaroo, Albatross, Chameleon, Dingo, Elephant, Weasel, Rhinoceros Chartreuse, Kangaroo, [Albatross, Chameleon], Elephant, [Rhinoceros, Weasel, Dingo] Flamingo, Vulture, Kangaroo, Elephant, [Rhinoceros, Weasel, Dingo] Still not helpful, but where I am. If there's a team of 5 there's no more than 4 in the groups. If there's 6 then there's no more than 5. I do think that Chartreuse is most likely not on a team with Flamingo and Vulture.

I think I can understand the progression read on them and I can force myself to see some villagness in their posts you linked but they still don't seem blatant to me. Their big post with reads, while being long, doesn't show any thoughts on the specific people- only a summary of their posts with reads listed but nothing there to really show how they got there. When they hopped on Iguana Hyena was still in the lead and it seemed to me like no one was really going to overtake hyena. I can understand the perspective of an Elim not wanting to make any sort of wave but with them previously being on a vanity wagon it doesn't make much difference in my eyes, still sitting on someone that isn't going to flip. [off topic but if Zebra and Iguana are possibly teamed if one flips E, as Zebra started the hopping off as soon as it reached 4, and then swapped back to Hyena. Still think Iguana is likely V though] I do think that his reaction to being pushed at SoD today wasn't bad. I want to village read his explaination of not voting Heron because it shows a semi lack of TMI in the "i don't think he's village, i just don't have enough of a read," and it reads more like a villager hedging and not wanting to be wrong more than an Elim hedging and not wanting to be caught on a bad village wagon. I still don't think he's completely village but I'm fine with going elsewhere today. -- So you don't think that iguana is a villager despite reasoning that Heron is village because an Elim wouldn't vote a third villager?

Oh ok, Just two. [Penguin, Flamingo]/[Flamingo, Kangaroo] [Vulture, Penguin, Ostrich] [Albatross, Chameleon, Scorpion, Beagle] [Iguana, Heron, Weasel, Dingo, Elephant] Bro Anyways I kinda think Mauve is a villager for their mouse vote because it was just too bizzare. I'm kinda not going anywhere there's too many inactives so i'm just gonna like Chartreuse Penguin EDIT: What on earth just happened to my fonts EDIT: Wait and rhino

Uh that's because it's not true lol Swan, Penguin, Onyx, Saffron all alive. -- [Flamingo, Penguin]/[Kangaroo/Flamingo] (dep on peng) [Heron, Iguana, Elephant, (kangaroo)] [Vulture, Penguin, Ostrich] [Albatross, Chameleon, Tuatara, Dingo] Does a lot of nothing right now =<1 [Flamingo, Penguin]/[Kangaroo/Flamingo] (dep on peng) =<1 [Scorpion, Beagle] ~1 [Heron, Elephant, (kangaroo)] 1-2 [Vulture, Penguin, Ostrich] 1-2 [Albatross, Chameleon, Dingo] If Penguin is an Elim then Flamingo is most likely village, and therefore Kangaroo's equity goes up Dingo and Tuatara are kinda impossible to read atp but I'm leaning V on Tuatara based on their pop in at EoD1 Elephant being an Elim doesn't mean much on Scorps alignment Flamingo being an Elim means most likely that the elim in there is Dingo Maybe less likely an elim in the vulture/penguin/ostrich group and probably no more than one if Penguin is an Elim. Well, of course one. EDIT Hold up there's a whole bunch of non voters wait

lol I didn't even notice that

Something that's throwing me wrt scorp is that they're saying a lot of things /for/ the whole game. Not like "my way or the highway" just more like statements about what the whole group is thinking EDIT: If there is an Elim in the D1 trains leading I'd say most likely penguin

Since you have outed your role would you like to out your previous actions EDIT I don't really follow this line of thought. Cham is claiming that someone claimed to have scanned them as a mistborn. Their logic is that they don't trust them and think that the elims know their role, therefore they don't see a downside from claiming in thread. They aren't saying that they "mildly suspect that someone scanned them" it's that they "mildly suspect the person who has claimed to have scanned them"

@Saffron Iguana Why did you unvote flamingo and vote Tuatara before EoD1 Immediately after unvoting Tuatara and voting Flamingo?

Can you explain your Heron read?