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19 hours ago, Bzhydack said:
We even have emtities on Roshar with similar properties. Entities literaly made from stone.
Yep, thunderclasts.
We know that tis is some powerfull voidspren, some speculate that this can be one Order od Fused, but this seems to be unlikely. But maybe it can be posiible to bond Cognitive Shadow with Statue?
great point, thanks
and im going to tread very lightly here since this isn't the rythym of war forum, but
Spoileryou may find this interesting: in ch 3 of rhythm of war, theres a two sentence combo that is semi-related to this topic, with mentions of "color" and "stone" in the first and second of those two sentences respectively
18 hours ago, Invocation said:My friend, I have just the WOB for you.
oh you rock! thank you for that
I'm new here, at least in usage. gonna look for the "words of brandon" section and do some test searches to see if i could have found this
my bad if this thread came across as a waste of time since the question had already been asked, but sincere thank you for this WoB reference and to everyone adding insight :)))
18 hours ago, Use the Falchion said:Oh...Oh no...a terrible theory is forming...well, let's get it out of my system.
What if this happens, and then it turns out that
Gavilar is wandering around the Cognitive Realm ala a certain person in Secret History. So from there, Gavilar waits until his body is Awakened, and then he finds a way to staple his soul back to said body. If Gavilar's plan was to work with Odium from the beginning, I can see this terrible thing where Dalinar has to use his Bondsmith powers in some way to defeat his own brother in Book 5. Or something.
I think it's possible, but not very plausible. But it needed to leave my system!
I like the way you're thinking. well I don't like the implication lol but you know what I mean
boring personal tangent attached
Spoilerfor a long time, I've considered stormlight my favorite series, but due to both age and some bad head injuries, memory is not my forte lol. so I dont tend to truly understand characters/plote until around the third or fourth read of a book
I finally got in. a reread and second reread of oathrbinger and now, whoa, what a book! I love it as much as the first two
and im finally starting to understand some of the larger cosmere workings and plot a little better, but have a long way to go
so not gonna lie, you're post came across as funny to me in that it was a reminder of how far I've got to go, since you went right after some of the most important/complex aspects of the story and the cosmere: a world hopper id never considered, but not just any world hopper. one chillin in the cognitive realm, or rather, one limited to the cognitive realm; gavilars past intent with a lowercase "i" s well as his current ambitions and possible relationship to odium then, now, and/or soon; bondsmiths
ohhhhh just reread your comment. when i first read it, I thought you hypothesized gavilar defeating dalinar, which is why i had joked about "not liking the implications"
but you've got dalinar winning. if so, I want this type of subplot so badly :)))))
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51 minutes ago, Elsecaller_17.5 said:
There might be something here. Vasher awakened the bones sealed inside the statues not the actual stone because he needed a human element. A previously human statue might fulfill that requirement as well.
exactly. i had totally forgotten about them soulcasting him as a statue until this recent reread. so that had jumped out at me
and similarly, I had forgotten that there were bones inside the warbreaker statues as you mentioned. so that jumped out as well
seems so similar and brandon is such a great writer. I feel like this could happen. would be so intense.
regardless, rythym of war is gonna be so good :))))
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11 minutes ago, Honorless said:
All 5 Scholars were Nalthian born, though they did Worldhop
word. thanks again for all the responses :))
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8 minutes ago, Honorless said:
Not just Vivenna, Vasher's there too (and he's native too... so is Nightblood actually)
oh wow. I didn't realize vasher was born there. thsts gnarly, thanks!
oh. im dumb that makes sense. has it been confirmed tho that he was born there or is it just implied since he was part of the "many war" (or whatever that was called
and can we assume or do we have proof that all five scholars were born there?
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5 minutes ago, Honorless said:
I mean, it is possible to Awaken Gavilar-statue, and there currently are Awakeners on Roshar but we don't know of any magic on Roshar that could have similar effects, granted we don't know much about Voidbinding but they seem to be based on Surges too.
yeh i hear. thanks for the reply!!
interesting tho that we get a few world hoppers from warbreaker, including a native (vivenna). so im totally pulling for this. esp if it leads to a dalinar vs gavilar awakened type fight, which would be wild on both the brotherly level, king level, and nivani level lol
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this post will have spoilers for stormlight through oathbringer and also warbreaker
i just did a stormlight reread (oathbringer twice) as well as warbreaker. two things seem possibly connected:
- Gavilar was soulcast into stone in stormlight
- the stone army in warbreaker, with human skeletons inside them
considering, the "rebirths" of fused and heralds of stormlight and the Returned of warbreaker, I would not be shocked if Gavilar's statue reanimated ... possibly for odium
has this been discussed in the past? and if so, can someone point me to a thread on it. I have not yet thought through this hypothesis in detail, so it'd be sick if yall have already brainstormed/discussed the viability of such a hypothesis
or am I completely off my rocker? wouldn't be the first time lol
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23 minutes ago, Govir said:
Alternatively, Re-Shephir may have seen Adolin do it (and that's why she copied the death). Since Shallan is doing a mind meld with the Unmade, it's possible that Shallan will start to have memories of Adolin killing Sadeas.
I think Adolin will eventually be found out (by at least one person). Either he'll crack and tell Shallan/Dalinar, or Shallan will actually find clues leading to Adolin.
thank you both for your insight!! much appreciated
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I'm almost finished with a WoR reread. And I've read thru 27 of oathbringer so far, but I can't recall... does anyone know what adolin did?
And how do renarins powers work? Is it possible he has "seen" what happened to sadeas?
ThaNK you in advance
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36 minutes ago, Prince of Ravens said:
Thanks! I was just thinking if new chapters have been posted yet!
prologue at 12:01am
chapters 1-3 at 9am
chapters 4-6 at 9am
im impressed. this serialization is being handed very professionally! i was counting down the minutes until 9am EST =)
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1 hour ago, Ansalem said:
The Graphic Audio is really good. Not only are they my favorite books, I think they're GA's best work so far (that I've heard at least).
To add to the topic, my favorite scenes have already been mentioned (Honor is dead, duel), so I'll add my second favorite to the list.
Syl standing against the storm trying to shield Kaladin, and then fighting off the deathspren are tied. Makes me choke up every time.
good call! did you read the new chapters yet (came out 45 minutes ago). i just finished. absolutely incredible!
https://www.tor.com/2017/09/05/oathbringer-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-4-6/
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1 minute ago, Chaos said:
Yeah, I am sad at our SEO on the Coppermind. It gets higher ranks on cosmere stuff rather than core characters. It's sad.
And great! If you ever need to do research and stuff, or need to ask questions, just post a topic here! We'll also have various podcasts analyzing Oathbringer, and other featured articles, which should help I hope
I actualy saw your podcast a little bit ago, and I plan on listening. But it'd been a long day, and I haven't read any wok chapters yet. So its time for audiobook and bed.
And u might laugh. As I debated clicking t earlier and decided to wait until tomorrow, I got intimidated, bc the stuff u say is probably way over my head lol.
I didnt follow the first. Are u able to say it in layman's terms, please? (Sorry. I'm a dummy lol)
"Yeah, I am sad at our SEO on the Coppermind. It gets higher ranks on cosmere stuff rather than core characters. It's sad."
I'll catch up with ya manana. Bed time for bonzos
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3 minutes ago, Chaos said:
Oh, I agree, but I can also see it from a publisher POV. It's like on the line of fair use. Like, I imagine that's not super different from posting audio of Brandon reading it.
But yes, I recommend the Coppermind instead
I think it's cool your YouTube channel is Bridge Four and does so much GoT stuff, I like it.
I'm so new here. I should have! I'm not a member on that other wiki. I just searched his name and screencapped one of the first pages I saw as a background. Very different than most my videos
Assuming tor doesn't reach out mad, I plan on doing theory and history and lore videos eventually. So i would screen cap ideas from the wizards here. This forum seems awesome.
But first I have to wrap my arms around the story. Right now, I'm just a fan boy. But I feel clueless lol
The topics I've read so far on this site make me feel really dumb. I'm doing a 2nd reread right now tho. So hopefully I have a better understanding before oathbringer comes out
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2 minutes ago, Chaos said:
Hey dude! I'm not totally sure it's legal to read the entire chapter out. You might want to check with Peter. I'm not sure myself so I thought I'd let you know.
Also, clearly you should screenshot the one true wiki, The Coppermind, not the Stormlight Wikia.
I'm glad it's getting a lot of views so far!
I doubt the publishers would care. I'm a fan and it's free promotion. If tor reached out I'd be shocked, and it would leave a sour taste on my favorite series so I hope not to get any backlash
I could see them or audibook companies issue with someone narrating the full series, but this was a one off. And I'll probably only get a thousand views or so. If they want me to mail them a dollar, I'll do it :-P
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hoping to open the eyes of some ASOIAF fans to the gem that is Stormlight Archive =)
if you can't understand me, i don't blame ya. i find talking hard. i prefer reading or audiobooking to leaving the house or talking lol
*btw, i miss pronounced Sadeus until the last couple times. it urks me, but im too tired to re-record. my bad!
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11 hours ago, Tate said:
My favorite moment is when Kaladin saves Dalinar from the Parshendi Shardbearer, after going back for the army with Bridge 4. There was epic music playing in my head during that entire battle.

Oh good one. That makes me want to get the graphic audio for it. It's so expensive tho. One day I might cave tho
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"honor is dead, but i'll see what i can do"
i think it's the last line of the chapter before "whitespine uncaged." (circa chapter 53 or so of WoR)
gave me chills like no other moment in a book EVER has. literally.
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7 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said:
Is there by the way anyone who thinks that characters are better in the show than the books or vice versa? Here are mine:
Better in books:
-Stannis: The show took away a lot of his complexity, and made him a fanatic.
-Jaime Lannister: He is funnier, and he develops better. In the show he is just Cerseis man for an extremely long time.
-Roose Bolton: He feels dangerous in the books, like the Norths version of Tywin. The show makes him look quite weak.
Better in show:
-Bronn: More screen-time, more great lines.
-Beric Dondarrion: Looks incredibly badchull as well as a longer and more fitting storyline.
-Tywin Lannister: Guy was great in the books, but Charles Dance is a phenomenal actor who took Tywin to new levels.
oberyn was always cool. but pedro pascal really brought him to life for me
book Areo Hotah is 100000x better than show. nothing against the actor. just the plot he was given unfortunately. the actor had me pumped for some big scenes. then boom. dagger
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2 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:
Haven't read Farseer, but this sounds sweet. I'd love to see Wit travelling across fiction and annoying everyone. Come to think of it, Stannis would be hilarious there too. He'd have zero patience for Wit as well.
im such a bad farseer fan. the dudes name is "fool." i think he's called "the king's wit" also tho. i might be wrong. but he is really smart and hilarious just like wit in SA
im taking it back tho. you doubled down and you are so right. all we need is SAs Wit + Stannis traveling around together
picture stannis with hobbits LOL
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11 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said:
I think the combination of Tyrion and Wit would be fabulous.
I'd like to see Stannis and the Highprinces too. He'd have zero patience with them. Would be awesome.
And the Nights King would probably bond with Odium.
Awesome post. Stannis and the high princess would be hilarious
Wit reminds me so much of wit from farseer. I wish they could team up and harass people across tons of fiction
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On 8/17/2017 at 10:08 AM, Idealistic said:
For me it's a tie between Mistborn era 1 and Stormlight, Kingkiller and Farseer are among my favourites too.
im very much with you here. but dont you mean "assassin's apprentice?" whats "farseer" :-P
mistborn era 1 REALLY grew on my in a reread. and i loved farseer. i voted SA on princple since im rereading it right now lol, but in realty, i just consider all 3 of these (and some others) top tier awesomeness
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On 8/30/2017 at 5:39 PM, WhiteLeeopard said:
You should try Warbreaker as soon as you have time. May be relevant for Oathbringer.
oh good looks. appreciate the heads up. im going to to edgedancer too once i finish a reread of tWoK and WoR. are there other novelas or short-stories we should read directly related to SA?
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1 minute ago, CaptainRyan said:
@bridge4 Kaladin is one of my favorite characters are well. He has such powerful scenes! Amaram's army & his squad, Tien's death, the rescue at the Tower, Whitespine Uncaged, the speaking of his oaths, his internal struggle with feelings of failure, etc. Love it all!
whitespine uncaged gave me chills like no other chapter ever has. of course it was a function of the book and a half leading up to it. but that chapter was the icing
kaladin is so cool. im just starting a 3rd re-read (bc i have terrible memory), and i forgot how he has misplaced anger towards groups of people because of his past. but that's kind of cool. he doesn't start off a perfect character. but from the very beginning, he's been selfless and bad**s. i wish i was like kaladin. it so gnarly how he's at his best when he's fighting to protect others
*shoutout to syl. i get a HUGE kick out of her. she's very different from most of the people in my "favorite characters" lists across all fiction, but she's definitely up there. i love Syl! lol
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im as new as you. this is actually my first message. but since I got here a minute sooner, let me say....welcome :-P
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the "Powerful Pose" of Gavilar Hypothesis
in Cosmere Discussion
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I responded to people at different times
to avoid causing further problems, ill stay away. thank you all for the insight tho.
one last thing before I go. i found something else that may be a nod to this theory if it pays off
in oathbringer 101, ico is described from adolins eyes as a "soulcast king" two sentences after adolin compares ico's eye appearance to what he has seen done with statues :)))