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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

    in Sanderson Elimination

    Posted · Edited by Arinian

    8 hours ago, Bort said:

    As has already been said, your grammar isn't great. I'm sorry to say this if English isn't your first language, but that could be what caused any misunderstanding.

    Yep I know that my English is horrible, but that's not going to stop me from playing SE, don't hope on it :P. I don't think that my english is so big problem for understanding of my posts, bigger problem it's how I jump from one thought to another and  that I'm checking SE in late night(mess in head mess in post).

    Also I probably should apologise, because I was a bit too aggresive at the start of this turn, because I really dissapointed that Rand was lynched. Hope no offense?(I still would prefered if Bort was lynched than Rand :rolleyes:. But oh well... we can't change it).

    45 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

    :ph34r:

    Aman don't murder me, I know that couple times I'm almost caused lynches(in previous games I mean) on you without good reasons for this but that surely not reason to murder me ;)

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

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    Posted · Edited by Arinian

    9 minutes ago, Bort said:

    Arinian, after rereading the post in which you voted for me, you start off saying that you see my points, then you talk about how honest Joe is, then about how he has joked in the thread of earlier games about being in the eliminator doc. How is falsely claiming to be an eliminator 'being honest'? What happens in the game where Joe is an eliminator? Would it be 'honest' of him to 'joke' about it in the main thread then? This is what I was talking about yesterday about complacency. People keep making those jokes, then what happens when they are an eliminator? They crack the joke, and everyone just accepts it, because if it keeps happening, it is habit forming.

    Well I probably explained it not in right way, I don't remember Joe making posts like that and but when he analyzing even when he elim he tries to put part of truth in his analyzes, that's what I meant. 

    Edit. Anyway I should go right now will be back couple hours later... probably?

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

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    2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

    Because he wouldn't have tried throwing me under the bus in the end if he was. That would practically guarantee my innocence, and would be a completely pointless train of thought since he already knew my role and how pertinent it is I get killed ASAP.

    If I was on place of Bort and I was elim I would have done that, people not always giving much thought to what they do (especially I :rolleyes:). Also you know if you elim or not  I don't know that and all this bandwagon on Rand that based mostly on your reasoning don't adds much of trust. I will leave that for now but you not convinced me at all.

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

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    2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

    I practically know for a fact Bort's not an elim, Arin. Whereas with Rand I had no idea and saw a couple signs that warranted investigation. Main reason I chose to pursue him over you is that there was more posts from him to work with. If you want to prove to me (or anyone) that you're village, I would suggest trying to solve what happened rather than calling the lynch dumb :P at least one of those things is productive.

    I still don't understand what makes you believe so much that Bort not elim?

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

    in Sanderson Elimination

    Posted · Edited by Arinian

    9 minutes ago, Bort said:

    Yet you seemed fine joining in the bandwagon on me for equally dumb reasons.

    Reasons for lynch on you in my opinion much better than Aman's feeling that you not elim and Rand elim and that:

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    • Formative Zone: Too Early to Tell, A.K.A. Could Go Either Way. Not enough pressure at this stage in the game for eliminators to take risk. If an elim is present within this group, it will likely not be obvious. Significant analysis required.
      • Elenion
      • Eternum
      • Araris Valerian
    • Sweet Spot: These are the votes where decisions tend to be made and the masses tend to be swayed. Without villagers actively testing the water with counter-wagons, this is the safest place for an eliminator to vote in order to continuously encourage a pile-up.
      • Randuir
      • Arinian
      • Devotary of Spontaneity
    • The Clinchers: Like the players in the Formative Zone, these votes net minimal information. More often than not people in this group will be villagers, due to a lack of info and the inability to coordinate with allies. Elims favor caution and will more likely shy away from risking their necks like this for nothing.
      • Kidpen
      • Straw

    Maybe I'm wrong but I never saw strategy like this working. Some people tried to use it but they always was wrong

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

    in Sanderson Elimination

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    9 minutes ago, Bort said:

    Since it seems I'm going to die anyways, here's a final word of warning before I head to bed. I am the owner of Seon Teo, and have been in contact with Amanuensis. He role claimed to me, but was extremely reluctant to give proof, which makes me doubt. This might be the real reason behind the sudden bandwagon on me - an attempt to get me out of the way before I reveal one of their own. He did eventually, after much persuading, agree to prove his claim, but if he can't, well, that would have been an eliminator outed on cycle 2.

    So, I could totally see the eliminators prodding at the vote to try to get more votes on someone that might be a threat. As for why I didn't bring up my thoughts on Aman earlier, I was giving him the chance to prove himself, but since it appears I will not be in a position to check the proof he offered, I felt I should share.

    Well and now I don't know what to do. Why people always confusing me after I vote... hate all this PM tinfoily secrets. I wanted to go sleep and now I don't know if I should retract vote from Bort or no.

    Okay, I will leave vote and all responsibility on other players :P

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

    in Sanderson Elimination

    Posted · Edited by Arinian

    Hmm... Well, looks like it's time to be not very useful! :D

    (First I want to ask people not to lynch Straw, no, just no, pls.) 

    List:

    Bort. 

    10 hours ago, Bort said:

    Kidpen, for his very early eliminator claim. Dangerous move, playing it risky regardless of his alignment. If he is village, then he is making a bad joke. If he is eliminator, he is hoping it will be assumed to be a bad joke. Also, he claims to "always claim to be an eliminator," but having never before played alongside Kidpen, I do not know how true this is. Can anyone who has played with him before chip in on this?

    Young Pyromancer, for his very early cycle SHOUTING... Don't shout that early on please. Some folks are still in bed :P

    A Joe In The Bush, for his DensiTea pun (oh, and his discussion of 'the doc'.. Only a mind as twisted as a Jeskeri could come up with a pun that terrible. (Side note, well played Joe, brilliant pun).

    Drake Marshall, for his and Joe's references to their 'doc'. Granted, I suspect they are just trolling us all, but that could just as easily be the point. We dismiss them as trolls, where they are counting on that, and so manage to sneak under the radar as we concentrate on other people.

    Steel, for his comment about the Jeskeri making no point. Joe should be on the list for this too, but he is already here for something else, so that's really two marks against Joe's name now.

    I can understand his list of suspects, will add my thoughts on this players.

    Kidpen's move really was dangerous and many not very informative posts from Kidpen looked like attempt to look villager(or to fly under radar still looking active). But it's his first game right? I don't like to lynch newplayers and because I haven't played with him before my judgment about him feels even more flimsy. I'm not going to vote for him now but will pay attention.

    6 hours ago, Kidpen said:

    Quick question: If you die but your faction wins in the end, do you still technically win?

    This post strikes me little bit like post of doomed elim, still not going to change my decision.

    Pyro it's wildcard, his behavior erratic and I would say that all what he done is NAI, comparing his behavior in this game and LG43 I would say that it didn't change. Neutral read for Pyro right now.

    Joe. Statistically Joe ruins 97% of my plans, also very often when I'm villager Joe is elim(but it's not something that should be trusted, but if someone want we can try and lynch Joe just for science :D). Okay, enough jokes. Joe is very honest guy, but  usually he says not all truth or changes it in way that will fit for his plans, but still it's truth. Couple games ago he was saying that strategy chosen by elims fits for him(and some other players) and you know what? He was elim. But Drake in my opinion more careful with his words and I don't think that elim!Drake would have done thing like that, I will say that all this humor around "doc" is NAI.

    Steel... I didn't read his post and not I'm not going to do that... soo... someone go and read Steel's posts and analyze them ;)

    On other players.

    Mraize. I'm not looked through all of his posts but all this dancing around Bort and Len looks interesting. Anyway from all Mraize's posts I can say that he is somewhat indecisive, voted on Len then retracted, maybe new player confusion or hmm... not going to say more but also willl pay more attention to him. 

    Ohh... looks like I wanted to talk about Bort but broke my leg on halfway. Back to Bort!

    As people already said(while I was writing this post) Joe is not the best choice for voting, even if I can see(but honestly I don't think that it's case in this game) Joe pulling that trick with "doc" when he elim I doubt that Bort knew that about Joe(or at least that not what motivated his vote as I understood from his post). Also interactions between Mraize and Bort looked interesting and now I want to see one of them dead :rolleyes:

    7 hours ago, Bort said:

    Of course you agree with that, Elenion was defending you. Which makes me wonder, why?

    Also some of Bort's post looked like attempt to grasp on something really flimsy, like that one. Assuming that one player defending other player so early is suspicious not something very... hmm... something not very not sure what I wanted to say. But my gut says that it's looks not very nice.

    I will vote for Bort.

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

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    7 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

    You thought this was Aman posting but no! It was me, Dio!

    Wow, nice to see you again Aman... hmm... oh yes, nice to see you Dio!

    So, I skimmed through thread and most discussion was around Shu-Dereth Pendant,  I really see only one use for this pendant, use it on yourself and you can probably avoid being lynched. In late game it can be very powerful, also maybe I missed but if on converted player(or Gyorn) will be used pendant votes will be canceled?

    Also I'm not convert right now and I'm not going to announce when I will be converted, because it's boring :P!

    8 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

    -I am against any strategy trying to dictate who pendants get used on, tbh. People should do what they want with what they have.

    -I am similarly against Derethi converts informing the thread. Sure, it might make the village win con easier to obtain, but it also may do it at the cost of the Gyorn's fun. I'd rather just catch them normally.

    Also I agree with both this points. I never liked strategies which dictate to people what they should do, because this strategies usually don't work due to part of people doing what they want.

    About Derethi converts I'm not against them claiming, but as I said earlier I don't see need for everyone to inform thread if they converted or not, personal thing to do.

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    Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

    in Sanderson Elimination

    Posted · Edited by Arinian

    On 03.04.2018 at 8:59 AM, Herowannabe said:

    Arinian: Eilen the Janitor 

    Wait a second <_<! Eilen surely not Janitor! Eilen is traveler(worldhopper, but you don't know it) with talking sword which don't likes to talk, well no one heard this sword talking but he undoubtedly should be able to do that! Probably Eilen little bit insane but I'm still not sure in it.

    If you probably want to know how my character looks like. He is tall(well-knit) with long blond hair(not very long, to the shoulder, curving on the ends), light green eyes, usualy wears old brown jacket, and of course always carrying longsword on his waist, behavior depends on his mood, usually lazy and unserious. 

    Some pregame RP:

    * * *

    Eilen stood on the hill looking down on the plain – plain that once didn’t have any flaws now was scarred by giant crack. He yawned strolling down the hill closer to the canyon.

    “Previous time when I was on Sel it didn’t exist. What you think about that?” He asked looking on the longsword tied to his waist, his question remained unanswered, as always.

    So he just shrugged and continued his walk down the hill. Dark clouds thickened promising imminent downpour, wind blew dust and leaves tangling his blond hair.

    “My luck is like bottomless well of cakes and free beer with beautiful women dancing on the rainbow, just instead of that all I usually get storms, wars and bloody insane people that trying to murder me and put my brain in jar…” Eilen wearily huffed and pulled green apple from right pocket of his old brown jacket.

    The moment and now edge of crack was just in two steps in front of him. Eilen stopped chewing with full mouth juice dripped down from his chin. He threw rest of apple in crack then stepped forward. Now he balanced on edge leaning back forward, wind started to blow stronger threatening to throw him down. Eilen spread his hands and made one short step back, thunder shattered silence, first raindrops began to beat their song.

    Rain was calm but cold, still Eilen turned his face to the sky with closed eyes he smiled to the coming storm cause there no place for grieve in things that you can't change, smile while you can, it's not time for tears of rage.

    Eilen sighed and made one more step back from the edge.

    “Ahh… Okay, time to do things for which we came here”. He pulled sword from sheath and slammed into the ground, closed eyes and folded his arms on hilt.

    “Let’s see what caused this destruction and do you have any connection to it parasite”

    __________________

    Couple hours later

    Weak rain now turned in the storm, lightning struck without stop accompanied with thunder that felt almost like earthquake.  Clothes were soaked and wind pierced with cold right to the bone. Eilen shivered then raised hand and wiped water from face.

    “Nothing, again nothing. What I even expected? Useless waste of time! And it’s all your fault!” He screamed on sword, pulled it and threw in canyon. Moment later he felt weakness, feeling like all bones in his body disappeared, he fell on knees gasping with pain. Another second and feeling faded, sword again lied in sheath.

    “Ohh, colours. No, no… enough for me. Now I will find warm tavern and will sit drunken in my room for month or two”. He stood up and with uneven steps started to walk in direction of Kae.

    “I hate it all…” He grinned, it’s not time to grieve, time to get drunk.

     

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