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1 hour ago, Child of Hodor said:

They did long ago. Horneaters are Human-Singer hybrids.  https://coppermind.net/wiki/Unkalaki#Appearance_and_Anatomy

Herdazians are as well.  https://coppermind.net/wiki/Herdaz#People

Wow, how was I not aware of this? Were these just mentioned as WoBs and such (I am not super familiar with most WoBs), as I don't recall it ever even being hinted at in the books? Though now that I see it, it seems obvious. More so for the Horneaters than the Herdanzians though.

I am sorry if it was mentioned somewhere in the shardcast, but has there ever been a confirmed relationship between a human and singer previously and is it even biologically possible for a singer and a human to birth a child? 

1 hour ago, Child of Hodor said:

The only thing is 10 seems to have been made the important number for Roshar by Adonalsium since he made the system and the 10 gas giants. 

Why would the Fused get 9, including progression if it’s Cultivation’s truest surge? 

The Honorblades were made by Honor alone from Honor’s “soul” yet they grant all 10 surges. 

Some of the other 8 surges align with other Shards not in residence in the system yet the surge is still usable. Division causes things to burn, crumble to dust or decay. This seems like Ruin’s truest Surge, but it can be accessed through H&C&O.

https://coppermind.net/wiki/Honorblade

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/33/#e2745

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/324/#e9283

All great points that i can't answer convincingly. Like I said, there are a few holes in the theory. I only brought it up because 9 doesn't sound like a number of power and Brandon loves using those. There is definitely more to the surgebinding power system that we don't know yet.

Here's the thing about Honor's truest surge. Remember that the Stormfather said that Dalinar's powers wouldn't work. So I more view it as the fact that it's Honor's truest surge AND the fact that Kaladin's spren is an HONORSPREN. Which is of Honor. Retroactively, you can look at the same thing for Lift. Her surge of Progression works because it's Cultivation's truest surge AND because her spren is a CULTIVATIONSPREN, which is of Cultivation. And that both of them are invested enough to stay awake in the tower.

This can really cause a reassessment of the surgebinding magic system. Instead of 10 or 9 plus 1, it's 8 plus 2 (2 meaning Honor and Cultivation), which is more in line with the basic allomancy system. Then imagine if voidbinding is really 8 plus 1 (1 meaning odium) and it will turn out that the Rosharan magic system in closely aligned to the rest of the cosmere. This most likely won't be actualized in the canon and currently has some holes in the theory, but it seems like something Brandon might pull and it seems like it may have some truth in it.

I asked brandon years ago the question about mistings burning atium and he answered rafo because there is a lot about atium that we still don't know and there is a lot more he plans to do with it and explore.

Do you think those four pillars/people at the cardinal points signify something or are there for artistic design? They do connect the final empire into a large circle. 

I just look forward to brandon saying WAFO.