Hellscythe

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3 hours ago, jaimeleecee said:

I feel awful.. Sorry Conq..

I just saw what Lopen posted after I went to bed.. if I had seen it it probably would have prompted me to ask Gamma about whether or not no action would actually come up unsuccessful because that would be the only reason why I was wrong. 

@HaelbardeThanks for finding that post from Bard, I'm glad it wasn't me just assuming that that's how it worked, I still feel pretty darn stupid right now though.  

No more trust.

Conquestor was role blocked at the same time someone was detained. Probably

This sounds like very solid evidence that I have not seen myself.

Conquestor it is.

Nope that's not it.

Conquestor 

30 minutes ago, Ecthelion III said:

https://www.google.com/

Does this site burn your eyes? Because it has even more white.

I don't have to read posts on google. I just search things.

I will say I thoroughly enjoy the new mechanics of the site though.

On 6/13/2016 at 6:41 PM, Metacognition said:

 

I was just thinking the same thing about Fain maybe being inactive. It's either that or they're trying to save their corruptions for later on. I just doubt that we're getting this lucky with Fain's corruptions going towards those that are detained or otherwise untargetable. 

 

Winter, Jaime, and Araris have been on during that time though; at least to some degree. I'm not quite sure about Rubiks and Hellscythe. I've gotten a villagery read on Araris right now, so I doubt he's Fain. So let's put some pressure on Hellscythe to come and speak up right now. 

I'm not Fain. I hope that puts all your suspicions to rest. 

This new site has so much white its burning my eyes. Anyone know how to make it less white? Or make it like the old site?

Now does it seem more likely that the eliminators purposefully/ made no kill to frame the whitecloaked?

But... I still think HS is more likely to be an eliminator than HS

Yeah I'd have to disagree with that statement. I think HS is much more likely to be an eliminator. Haha kidding.

Really? Let’s see here. You’ve played three games with Sart: MR9 (as Deathclutch), MR10, and AG2. MR9 was your first game, and you never even mentioned Sart until he was killed. MR10 he was lynched D1... and yet you never voted on him or even mentioned him. And then in AG2, you referenced him four times. Here, here, here, here. The only post where you actually talk about him at all (the third) you put him in the could-go-either-way category (although you do say you're leaning bad). That is it. So... you do not usually suspect Sart because of his awkward playstyle. You have never voted for him, Day 1 or any other time.

Hellscythe.

I'm also not very satisfied with Gunshy's explanation, but my vote will stay on HS unless I receive a plausible explanation from him. I can't really think of anything, so that seems somewhat unlikely.

EDIT: I'm on a laptop for once so it may take a bit to figure out the formatting for the links.

EDIT 2: Got it.

. I know who I've suspected in previous games. I'm not going to look back at games I've played with Sart because I don't care. Thinking back on it most of my suspicions on Sart we're stated in PM's or in real life with Mailliw and Deathclutch before anyone knew we knew each other. He tends to be hypocritical (My first game he said to kill all inactives first while only posting twice himself) and all around not say anything useful or anything that hasn't been said before. No offense Sart I just don't like your play style and that usually grants you suspicioun from me however I've found that it has no bearing on whether or not you're evil so I didn't know if I should suspect or vote on you this game.

I wasn't able to vote on Sart the first game primarily because Deathcluth was playing the first 3 days(in actively)and I had missed sign ups.

MR10 I was a little busy being attacked by the actual eliminators to do anything about Sart. I had about 5 eliminator votes on me and all of them verbally attacking me. AG2 I said leaning towards bad because again his play style is off to me and he's always leaning towards bad so really that's no read at all if he's always leaning towards bad.

I obviously wasn't aware I'd never voted for Sart or I wouldn't have said that. He usually gets lynched early and I always suspect him so I made the assumption that I was a part of it.

"Well I guess that confirms Mailliw isn't Padan Fain!"

Not.

It's in the rules.

Aww, thanks!

My thoughts on why Cenn and Ruon are more likely villagers.

Cenn(Seonid) - from what I remember, he pushed for lynching Sart for most of the Day and was a part of why the lynch was so focused on Sart. He did eventually get off the lynch, sure, but I read his reasons as very understandable. The lynch on Sart wasn't based on any great logical masterpiece, so him being unsure about it like he was felt genuine when I read back over it.

Ruon(Bard) - Okay, mostly I remember his switching his vote between Straw and Sheep a couple times, which I think is what you're referring to. But at that point, again, the lynch on Sart was looking very odd, because of the bandwagon votes by Elodin and Straw(who made his immediately after Elodin), which cause Elodin to remove his vote right after that, so the lynch on Sart just wasn't that great of a lynch at that time and I think that if Bard had been an eliminator he would have been more likely to have just sat back and let the votes go rather than draw attention to himself by switching his vote like he did. His posts other than that have given me a village read as well, just as a gut feeling/tone kind of thing. Nothing except his voting has looked all that suspicious, IMO.

Thanks for the Mayor vote! I'll put my own Mayor vote on myself as well! Jak

I'm a bit suspicious of Hellscythe too, yeah. Both for his reasons for maybe future voting on you and for his examples for what could have happened with the missing elim kill, which didn't seem very plausible to me, so I'm suspicious he brought them up, as they're very unlikely scenarios which doesn't help clear anything up.

Thank you for your vote!

Role claiming does have some relevance to her being Padan Fain or not, I think, because of the reasons Wilson brought up. That Fain most likely will show up as a "regular villager" as scans because he doesn't have a role other than himself(due to him having his Corrupting Action), so those with roles are able to clear themselves of being Fain if they get scanned as having a role. I guess since his Corrupts are limited, it's possible that Gamma gave him an extra role, but that doesn't really seem like the type of role Fain is. He's someone who gains power by conversions which Corrupt the town. He doesn't have immediate power. I don't know, that's just the feeling I get. I've also been assuming it was either 1 role or none.

I agree that Meta and Wilson are both probably evils.

Jokes aside, I think I'll finally put my vote on Elodin as well. I'm too tired(and feeling lazy) to type up my reasons. Basically, bandwagoning(hopping onto different people right after someone else gives reasoning(he voted on me, Sheep, Sart, Straw on D1 immediately after reasons were given for possible guilt). His suspicion against Wilson doesn't seem valid to me, although I'm with Elbereth on this one, it's kinda odd rather than suspicious. I do believe his claim of Dreamwalker, but honestly, I think I'm okay with PM's going down if he's our last one.

Sigh. I'm having doubts about him being evil. Similar to how I had doubts about Aman being evil in MR14. Elodin just doesn't seem like he cares all that much about surviving. A ton of people are saying they're very suspicious of him and yet he's still posting about other players and how Wilson could be Padan Fain rather than solely defending himself.

Well, I changed my mind a bit. I'm still suspicious of Elodin, but he's already got a lot of votes, so I'll place my vote elsewhere for now. Hellscythe, what are your thoughts on all of this? I would think that you would have some suspicions or accusations to make at this point, other than Elbereth because she might have been converted. Your posts haven't been very substantial and you're kind of just staying in the background. Very nice place for a Darkfriend with all of this posting and misunderstandings.

And remember, as it stands, my vote counts double.

To be completely honest with you I'm leaving for universal studios right now and won't be back until after the day cycle is over so I'll try to read the thread in the car but I get carsick easily so unless you guys tone down the large paragraphs I'm going to have a hard time reading this cycle as well. I read most of day one, but again wasn't able to read most of wilsons, yours, metas, or elbereths posts. What I have analyzed is the lynch last cycle, the results of this cycle, and what's been happening with Nyali.

The lynch last cycle was a great success. Although I usually suspect Sart because of his awkward play style by the end of day one in every game I've played with him, I was tired of voting for him day one over and over and ignored him and votes on him all day. This of course naturally

gives trust to the first few voters, Elbereth, Wilson, and Meta however I honestly doubt that all of them are village especially considering there was a night one conversion.

The results this cycle. I'm not too worried about losing DC as I voted on him and wanted him to die anyways, however losing a dream walker this early could mean pms are going down in the next few cycles depending on distribution. My guess is the darkies have one dream walker. Orlok dying had no bearing on anyone except his only suspicioun was Wilson day one. (I think) The wolves should be killing their suspicions however I'm not sure that by night one they had all that much information to make that kind of informed decision which is why 2 villagers died. The whitecloak and conversion was expected, however the eliminator kill was not.

The reason I gave out the other reasons for why there could've been no eliminator kill is because just because one person was role blocked and there was no kill doesn't mean that persons automatically evil. I talked with Bard last night and he told me what actions he was sending in(none) and we role swapped and I trust him. So understandably I wouldn't want one of the people I trust to be mislynched just because there was no eliminator kill.

Sent to me just now:

Edited by Gamma

 

What does how many channelers are out there have anything to do it?

We've discussed Elodin making the eliminator kill, and agreed it's a bit less likely since he's so high in suspicion right now.

Do you really think the eliminators would target Elodin with their kill? That'd be a terrible idea. And how many Ta'veren do you really think there are? And how likely is it that multiple Ta'veren redirected someone onto Elodin?

And yes, I did consider them making no kill at all. And I think it's much less likely since they're not in a comfortable enough position not to be killing given that they just lost their Forsaken Day 1.

So... none of those alternate options are really valid, in my opinion.

Channelers have two different types of role blocks? And if there are 5 channelers any one of their role blocks could've been the successful block on the eliminators as well.

NOW Elodin has suspicion on him. That has nothing to do with last night and him deciding whether he'd make the kill or not.

I honestly don't know if they'd target Elodin. I don't know who is on the team. I wouldn't but I'm not an eliminator so I don't get a vote.

I don't see why it's not a valid option. They've gotten so much information, claiming and distrust out of it I think they've made a great play if that's really what happened.

Yes, I'm aware that multiple people could have failed actions, but two suspicious people are known to have failed actions (assuming you trust the people making claims, which I clearly do).

If you assume only a handful of people failed and one of them was an eliminator because no attempted kill (we'd know if someone was attacked and protected from the write-up), then the chances of one person who we know failed of being an eliminator should be far higher than an arbitrary person chosen from the full population.

Plus, Ruon was already on my suspicion list.

Edit: Oh, and White Cloaks can't be redirected. That was the clarification I talked about earlier - I had first thought I redirected the detaining, but I was told that can't be done.

Nyali there's so many other instances where the eliminator kill could've not gone through. I don't think it was a good idea to claim just to lynch one possibility. 

We don't even know how many channelers are out there.

The Whitecloaked person could've attempted the eliminator kill themselves.

Anyone targeting or redirected to the Whitecloaked person could've made the kill.

The eliminators could've just made no kill at all, which nobody is considering.

What role are you claiming and how do you know Bards actions failed?

I believe you're all discounting the possibility that the eliminators purposefully made no kill so that we would lynch the white cloaked player regardless of how important they are.

I was talking to Orlok last night and he apparently talked to I believe Wilson last night and had some kind of suspicioun brought upon himself enough to be killed by a wolf. So I'm going to assume Wilson is either a wolf herself or has a wolf that is willing to listen to her. The latter I find likely.

DC was inactive. I didn't kill him but if I was a wolf I probably would've.

I'll make votes later when I'm not on mobile because it's pain but I'll probably be voting for elbereth. If I was Padan Fain she'd be my first target.

Honestly more confused why Mail asked the question.

"Corrupted players have their own Doc to communicate in." The rules technically don't mention Padan in the doc.

OH I thought he said the Darkfriends and Padan Fain

Trying to work out if you're being sarcastic or not...

**Darkfriends that get Corrupted are capable of winning as either a Darkfriend or a Corrupted.

Villagers win if they eliminate all of the Darkfriends and Corrupted. Darkfriends win if they outnumber the other players. The Corrupted and Padan Fain win if they outnumber the other players.

I take back what I said about Jak(Lopen) being evil, because he was voted to be mayor by Sarah(Sart). Sarah knew she was going to be lynched at that point, so, she decided to vote for a mayor that she could cast suspicion upon! That is why I am now thinking that Jak is soft cleared.

Or maybe that's what Sart wanted you to think.

 

Do Corrupted get a doc/PM with Fain?

No. Their win conditions don't coincide that wouldn't make sense.

Wow solid job guys!

Apologies for not posting much I don't have much to say. I'm in the car on mobile driving back from a wedding and I get car sick easily so I can't read these large elbereth, Wilson, or meta paragraphs. What I will say is that I trust Meta with the mayor role more than the other people up for mayor (other than myself of course).

Also I believe there's no inactivity filter so I encourage the people who, like me, have no better suspicions due to it being day one and lynch inactives for denying us information! Obviously if you have a strong enough suspicioun on someone I believe you should keep your vote on them because that's what I would do and you shouldn't not act on your suspicions just because you don't have any solidified information. Educated guesses are better than random chance.

I edited my post. Apologies I misread yours. I thought you were asking her to talk more about herself and less about her suspiciouns.

Hey guys! I exist! Anyways, I don't completely trust Wilson because she seems like she's trying to draw suspicion towards others without actually saying much herself. Also I think that we should focus less on the corrupted right now and more on the Darkfriends, since they are more of a threat at the moment.

I'm not really sure what you're supposed to say about yourself. oh misread that. Much herself. I think she's said more than a fair amount in comparison to yourself friend